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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Fri May 9, 2014, 10:30 AM May 2014

Mayors Against Illegal Guns want 'common-sense' laws

Missoula Mayor John Engen said while international media have focused on the recent shooting of a teenager by a Grant Creek homeowner claiming self-defense, a national gun violence group he belongs to has not dug into the so-called “castle doctrine” yet.

“I am a member of Mayors Against Illegal Guns,” Engen said Friday. “My part in that is about promoting common-sense gun laws, and chief among those are programs for expanded background checks. I think other common-sense gun organizations are paying attention to this, but I haven’t had contact on this issue.”

German exchange student Diren Dede was killed while allegedly trespassing in the garage of Missoula homeowner Markus Kaarma on April 27.

Kaarma has been charged with felony deliberate homicide, but his lawyer plans to claim self-defense under Montana’s “defense of an occupied structure” law. It’s a variation of the “your home is your castle” doctrine, absolving a shooter of guilt for using lethal force for self-defense at home.

http://missoulian.com/news/local/mayors-against-illegal-guns-yet-to-take-stand-on-castle/article_6f032f6a-d255-11e3-a1b4-0019bb2963f4.html
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Mayors Against Illegal Guns want 'common-sense' laws (Original Post) SecularMotion May 2014 OP
What "common sense" laws would you support? blueridge3210 May 2014 #1
And I would like common sense postings.. SQUEE May 2014 #2
this could have all been avoided if the kid didn't burglarize someone's home bossy22 May 2014 #3
Lots of double speak sarisataka May 2014 #4
Not really a gun/gun law issue. It's about Montana law governing use of force. nt Eleanors38 May 2014 #5
How would expanded background checks have interceded in the Dede shooting? Nuclear Unicorn May 2014 #6

SQUEE

(1,315 posts)
2. And I would like common sense postings..
Fri May 9, 2014, 10:59 AM
May 2014

we both look forward to disapointment.

maybe the KKK can weigh in on this as well? I mean let's hear what other bigots have to say.

bossy22

(3,547 posts)
3. this could have all been avoided if the kid didn't burglarize someone's home
Fri May 9, 2014, 11:11 AM
May 2014

why do people forget that fact?

sarisataka

(18,654 posts)
4. Lots of double speak
Fri May 9, 2014, 01:09 PM
May 2014

-MAIG has not dug into castle doctrine
-but they support castle doctrine
-"But I think there are any number of ways for people to demonstrate that if their life is at risk, they can be immune from prosecution. I’m not sure it takes a castle law to ensure that"

and of course bringing up and conflating SYG with castle doctrine, confusing the difference.

Is it any wonder no credence is given to non-specific claims of common sense from a group that has never said a word about the felons from their ranks? They have just made them unpersons...

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