Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forum22 People Shot in 12 Hours in Chicago
A 10-year-old girl may be braindead after a stray bullet fired into her home and hit her in the head around 9:35 p.m. on Friday. A 12-year-old was shot in the same neighborhood when she, a 33-year-old woman and a 44-year-old man were approached by someone they didnt know who fired at them. In total, 22 people were shot in Chicago between about 3:30 p.m. and 3 a.m. Its been a bloody month for the cityover the long Fourth of July weekend alone, another 82 gunshot victims were reported.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2014/07/19/22-people-shot-in-12-hours-in-chicago.html
THE ANSWER IS OF COURSE, MORE GODDAMNED GUNS IN THE HANDS OF GUN 'OWNERS'.
ileus
(15,396 posts)Hopefully more lawful citizens will take advantage of their 2A rights, and help fight for more progressive 2A laws to be passed.
...with that unrealistic l dream. As long as the NRA and gun nutz push their agenda of death, nothing will be done,regardless of how many REAL Americans want the bloodshed to stop.
The answer is NO MORE GUNS! NONE.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)simple question
IronGate
(2,186 posts)So tell us how you plan to achieve this lofty goal?
oneshooter
(8,614 posts)If they are not "REAL Americans" then what nationality are they?
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Because they're scary and I don't understand them.
If you would take a moment to research where those 22 deaths occurred, you'd find several common denominators, factors without which there would be no such incidents (poverty, drugs, despair).
Guns are available in other parts of the state, other parts of the city of Chicago- why no shootings there?
Look to those common denominators for the solutions, because your "no more guns" solution will still leave the poverty and despair and deaths.
Stop with the totalitarian solutions already.
No More! None!
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)and chosen the usual prohibitionist route.
I'm betting most of these crimes were committed in the same areas, by the same criminal gangs, against the same criminal gangs over the same criminal gang issues. Maybe greater efforts toward jobs, new businesses, better schools, and intensified anti-gang law enforcecement would be a better approach?
Instead, it's magic wand bans you want.
DonP
(6,185 posts)Amazingly ... none of these gang shooters seem to have the legally required FOID card or Illinois concealed carry permits. What a coincidence! They're not obeying the law, so let's pass more gun laws, that they might obey?
I always wonder if the gun control supporters are being coy and "small i" ignorant when they conflate the law abiding with criminal gangs or are they just really dumb as shit?
I mean, do they really think that they can get the criminals to magically give up their weapons and that disarming the law abiding will somehow stop the gangs?
Or do they figure a few more unarmed dead citizens is an OK price to pay for feeling good that they "did something"?
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)More Laws!!!!
DonP
(6,185 posts)That will assure that the law abiding gun carriers, the ones with actual FOID cards and carry permits, will stay away.
The fact that Rahm has siphoned off tens of millions of $ has nothing to do with it I'm sure for his charter school buddies instead of hiring cops to replace retirees so patrol cars in the rougher neighborhoods are now single cop cars, no partners or back up.
But expect another "Guns we've taken off the street" press conference in the next week or two. Problem is the media finally took a closer look at those "crime guns" and found the tags were all 2 and 3 years old and had been used for media events several times
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)gun-control laws in Chicago, they should spend that money on more cops and enforcement of the gun laws on the books. I am guessing that most of the shootings this summer in Chicago were done by people that are legally not permitted to posses guns. The cops should crack down on those illegally using those weapons.
oneshooter
(8,614 posts)NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)Oh yeah, a lot of people were getting shot back then too. Maybe it's because criminals don't obey laws, even when they have such a "noble" purpose as to ban guns.