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Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 06:46 PM Jan 2015

There is no such thing as being, "anti gun."

All law is predicated on the use of force, including deadly force.

Those who propose gun control laws are not advocating for the absence or guns but merely exclusivity in the use of guns. Advocating for laws is to advocate for the use of force.

But the use of force against whom? Women? The elderly? Shop owners? Family members? Hobbyists?

And this is supposedly done in the name of protecting the innocent.

Gun control is a wildly self-contradicting creed.

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Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
5. I just did! I stole a big juicy steak from Kroegers...no use of force was necessary or mentioned
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 06:57 PM
Jan 2015

by the judge.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
7. You don't see arrest and confinement or the fact they are enforced by people with guns as
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 07:22 PM
Jan 2015

being a predication of force?

So, if gun control laws are ignored it is your assertion there will be no reliance upon force to affect compliance?

Perhaps then I will no longer argue against your proposals.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
8. If every gun in existence was destroyed..
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 08:35 PM
Jan 2015

And no new ones were made, humans would revert to killing each other with edged weapons. Then we would see the same rhetoric about the "evil" knives and swords, knife companies, knife owners, etc.

Some just can't stand the idea of ordinary people being armed, since they "might take the law in their own hands" doncha know.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
9. But those would be nice peaceful attacks...
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 06:53 AM
Jan 2015

except for the attack the victim would be much much safer.



remember with the "guns kill people" crowd, it's the object that makes folks go sour.

Veganstein

(32 posts)
12. That's actually happening in some parts of the world.
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 11:43 AM
Jan 2015

There are ad campaigns in England that discuss knives in the same way that gun control campaigns here discuss guns.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
10. proof of your point....
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 06:57 AM
Jan 2015
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6050667



Two firearm regressives that want guns used to strip away rights.


Wouldn't want to pollute society when a can of beans will do nicely.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
13. Yeah. That one guy kinda avoids me these days. He managed to put his foot in his mouth while
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 06:06 PM
Jan 2015

stepping on his crank. This sub-thread didn't go well for him --

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025724398#post37

 

Shamash

(597 posts)
11. I think you have made two good points
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 09:20 AM
Jan 2015

Any argument that only one person chooses to repeatedly make a fool of himself against is a) probably a good argument, and b) evidence that said person is probably at the bottom of the intelligence and rationality scales regarding opponents of that argument.

That is, every village has an idiot...

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