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Related: About this forumQualified Immunity Defense Rejected, Officer To Stand Trial For Illegal Arrest Of Gun Owner
But if you are so treated, can you sue the officer for damages? That is the substance of an Ohio case recently decided by the Sixth Circuit, where a man had been arrested for legally carrying a gun. The courts ruling in favor of the plaintiff is good news not just for gun owners, but all other Americans who might now be spared arrest, humiliation, or worse.
Within a few minutes, Officer Dan Bright pulled up in his squad car and encountered the Northrups. In an astounding overreaction to a non-threatening situation, Bright told Shawn that he would shoot him if he went for his gun. Bright then disarmed him, handcuffed him, told him he was under arrest for inducing a panic, and put him in the back of his squad car.
Writing the courts opinion, Judge Sutton concluded that on the facts presented, Officer Bright was certainly not acting reasonably. He tried to convince the court that he thought his only choices were either to respond to the communities fear and the appearance of the gunman or to nothing and hope he was not about to start shooting. Judge Sutton rightly called that specious argument a false dilemma. There were no grounds for thinking that Northrup was about to start shooting. (Good grief a guy out with his wife walking their dog is about to start shooting?). He neednt have done nothing, but could have easily ascertained how unthreatening the situation was if he had just spoken calmly to Northrup for a few moments. Instead, he overreacted and resorted to force when none was necessary.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/georgeleef/2015/05/20/qualified-immunity-defense-rejected-officer-to-stand-trial-for-illegal-arrest-of-gun-owner/
This is going to give the controllers and other authoritarians a sad.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,479 posts)...by cops that are overarmed and under-trained.
Romeo.lima333
(1,127 posts)a chubby but really the police had no business arresting him. from an authoritarian controller
petronius
(26,602 posts)be very skeptical when it comes to immunity for LEOs or other officials. People should be individually responsible for their own deliberate actions, regardless of their job title when they committed those actions...
HassleCat
(6,409 posts)When guns are criminalized, only criminals and cops will have guns. And I'm not sure if I'm more likely to be shot by a police officer, shot by a criminal, or caught in the crossfire between the two groups. Cops get very, very tense when they see a non-cop with a firearm. For those of you who are NRA, into open carry, and that 2nd Amendment stuff, be very careful. You are in almost as much danger as if you were wearing a hoodie. And I'm not sure if I'm being sarcastic or not. The police are an extremely nervous, fired up bunch of people these days, and they can shoot at you for strange reasons.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)and actually EVALUATE the situation before overreacting as they too often do. Especially with minorities.
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)You know that gun owners are like that.
pablo_marmol
(2,375 posts)And yes......the officer's name makes the story all the more amusing!
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)"What were you thinking, Officer Bright?"
ileus
(15,396 posts)DonP
(6,185 posts)How many times have we seen posts on DU that call for the immediate tackling, arrest and/or beating of any open (or concealed) carriers, laws be damned!
Heck, he might even be a poster in Bansalot? They all think they are pretty "Bright".
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)I am curious how the two or three posters over there missed this important story.
DonP
(6,185 posts)But they do seem to love "dancing in the blood" of every accidental shooting and crimes. They never miss a chance to post those but somehow miss any self defense stories.
Well, that and repeating supposed gun memes that no gun owner ever really said. "If only the child/wife/victim had a gun" etc.
But their very favorite myth is "FEWER GUN OWNERS", always supported by some generic media source and never quite explaining the "anomaly" of things like the Illinois FOID card explosion.
You'd think if that were so true, they'd be celebrating the eventual disappearance of gun owners in the US. But they still seem so angry and smug at the same time?
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)posted over there.
I have to laugh every time I read it as if I would actually tell some stranger over the phone I have weapons, LOL
DonP
(6,185 posts)Now there's an unbiased source for data.
"Hello, this is the Violence Policy Center calling, we're the people that have been pushing to publish gun owners names and addresses in the local papers. Do you have any firearms in your home? No? Thank you for your honesty. Hey Jerry, another no guns house to for the new graph."
Almost as authoritative as Mother Jones editorials and Everytown/MDA numbers
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)ileus
(15,396 posts)rude toter gunner types...
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,479 posts)beevul
(12,194 posts)Wait, what? "Toters" have rights?
And then some.
I'm still looking for a downside.
DonP
(6,185 posts)Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)spin
(17,493 posts)I remember walking down the main street of my home town with my father and seeing a guy wearing a cowboy hat with two western style revolvers in holsters on a gun belt walking toward us.
I asked my father if those were real guns. He told me that they were and this guy commonly walked around town with the guns strapped to his side. I asked if this was legal and my father laughed and said, "It is in Ohio. Don't try it in most states."