Ed -- A Petition For Stronger Gun Laws

[SecularMotion]

[Travis_0004]

1. By that logic, hasn't the press changed

Perhaps we could ban this PSA from the internet. They of course are free to print it in a newspaper.

Also, first 20 round magazine was on a girandoni air rifle made in 1780. Bill of rights-1791

[SecularMotion]

2. You're spewing NRA talking points on speed trigger today.

[Travis_0004]

4. you didnt address the point that the first 20 round mag predates the bill of rights.

[krispos42]

5. Calling a fact a "talking point" means it's still a fact.

Sorry, SecMo.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

6. Calling anything an "NRA talking point"...

...without addressing the substance of the issue, is just another talking point.

[Eleanors38]

7. "speed spew?" You musta missed the male appendage cites in Guns Discussion.

[branford]

8. If using facts is an "NRA Talking Point™,"

I happily consider myself guilty as charged.

Using juvenile and lazy "guilt by association" tactics when confronted by inconvenient facts does not constitute substantive argument, is not in any was persuasive, and helps explain the lack of success of the gun control movement.

I would also remind you that the NRA has about 5 million members out of 80-100+ million legal American gun owners, to say nothing of gun rights supporters who don't own firearms like myself. When accusing close to 90% of non-NRA gun owners and supporters of agreeing with the NRA (e.g., like simple historical facts about firearm technology), all you accomplish it getting some of these people to consider membership. The NRA would like to thank you for your ongoing support.

[SecularMotion]

9. Your support of the NRA on a website for liberals is disgusting

and morally bankrupt.

[beevul]

10. No, whats morally bankrupt, is using a terrorist attack to push for gun restrictions...

No, whats morally bankrupt, is using a terrorist attack to push for gun restrictions which would not have prevented that terrorist attack.

Look in the mirror.

[branford]

11. Sigh...

If you honestly believe anything I wrote demonstrated support for the NRA as an organization, you need help with basic reading comprehension. You need to learn that people can support gun rights without supporting the NRA, which as previously advised, only represents about 5% of gun owners.

It was you who brought-up the NRA, rather than actually respond to inconvenient, and fairly uncontroversial facts, about firearm technology. Again, accusing people of who don't agree with you of essentially being "NRA-sympathizers" is just lazy and mendacious. If you ever wonder why gun control is failing and the NRA manages to set the tone for the political and legal battle for gun rights, you need only look in the mirror.

[Duckhunter935]

13. he will run away now

He gets frustrated when shown how idiotic his posts are then runs and hides.

[SecularMotion]

14. See comment #9

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

15. Saying someone is "supporting the NRA" and calling that "disgusting"...

...is more of an accusation than a refutation of any assertion they may have advanced.

Making unfounded accusations is so helpful in this discussion.

Thanks for the 1 post in 10 that isn't just a copy/paste of someone else's brain fart.

[Duckhunter935]

17. I see he has nothing

Lol

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

18. Well neither does the tribe of Bloomberg moneyhole orgs

They are all more like examples of "how to render yourself irrelevant".
The Everytown/MDA group is just kind of a collection of "rent some demonstrators" or "protester temps".
Some of the others are simply "think-tanks who can be paid to agree with you".

[DonP]

16. See comment #13

[Duckhunter935]

12. too bad you cannot take the truth

Can't refute the poster,so insult him instead

[edgineered]

3. That silly Ed

Bows are faster and quietier, and those broadheads sure are sharp.