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flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 12:10 PM Dec 2015

Fodder for the deniers . . .

In Missouri, Fewer Gun Restrictions and More Gun Killings

In the past decade, Missouri has been a natural experiment in what happens when a state relaxes its gun control laws. For decades, it had one of the nation’s strongest measures to keep guns from dangerous people: a requirement that all handgun buyers get a gun permit by undergoing a background check in person at a sheriff’s office.
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But the legislature repealed that in 2007 and approved a flurry of other changes, including, last year, lowering the legal age to carry a concealed gun to 19.
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Research by Daniel Webster, the director of the Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research, found that in the first six years after the state repealed the requirement for comprehensive background checks and purchase permits, the gun homicide rate was 16 percent higher than it was the six years before. During the same period, the national rate declined by 11 percent. After Professor Webster controlled for poverty and other factors that could influence the homicide rate, and took into account homicide rates in other states, the result was slightly higher, rising by 18 percent in Missouri.


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/22/health/in-missouri-fewer-gun-restrictions-and-more-gun-killings.html?_r=1

Excerpt from the study abstract:

In the USA, homicide is a leading cause of death for young males and a major cause of racial disparities in life expectancy for men. There are intense debate and little rigorous research on the effects of firearm sales regulation on homicides. This study estimates the impact of Missouri’s 2007 repeal of its permit-to-purchase (PTP) handgun law on states’ homicide rates and controls for changes in poverty, unemployment, crime, incarceration, policing levels, and other policies that could potentially affect homicides. Using death certificate data available through 2010, the repeal of Missouri’s PTP law was associated with an increase in annual firearm homicides rates of 1.09 per 100,000 (+23 %) but was unrelated to changes in non-firearm homicide rates. Using Uniform Crime Reporting data from police through 2012, the law’s repeal was associated with increased annual murders rates of 0.93 per 100,000 (+16 %). These estimated effects translate to increases of between 55 and 63 homicides per year in Missouri.
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Fodder for the deniers . . . (Original Post) flamin lib Dec 2015 OP
Thanks... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2015 #1
How many times will the same article be posted? DonP Dec 2015 #2
Moms sez make gun murder illegal. ileus Dec 2015 #3
Johns Hopkins Center. Heh-heh.... Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #4
Can you argue the data? nt flamin lib Dec 2015 #5
Post hoc, ergo propter hoc... Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #6
More data manipulation with cherry picked time periods and exclusion Kang Colby Dec 2015 #7
Denial is more than a river in Africa.nt flamin lib Dec 2015 #8
Yup, it's also a primary strategy for the failed gun control movement n/t DonP Dec 2015 #9
 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
2. How many times will the same article be posted?
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 01:29 PM
Dec 2015

Or don't gun control supporters have anything new to claim for "support", since they don't have any court or serious legislative wins to tout?

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
6. Post hoc, ergo propter hoc...
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 07:11 PM
Dec 2015

The rate of homicides (by gun) has been in steady decline for years. Some states briefly go up, some go down. But the trend is down, even during a period of liberalized gun laws across the nation. That is far more significant.

 

Kang Colby

(1,941 posts)
7. More data manipulation with cherry picked time periods and exclusion
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 02:00 PM
Dec 2015

of relevant yet contradictory data aka another Daniel Webster "study". If Exxon-Mobil published a study on climate change how many people would parrot it as gospel around here? Daniel Webster has made his livelihood advocating rights erosion and gun control.

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