The prohibitionists have yet another truthiness problem:

[friendly_iconoclast]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/126210284

Yet another study refutes the notion that guns make anyone safe.

I'll leave the citation-free argument from authority to the disinterested reader, my
interest lies in the last line from the OP

More guns, more dead women. Period.

hence my reply to their x-post in the Women's Rights & Issues group:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/11388712#post1

"More guns, more dead women. Period." Wrong- the number of women murder victims decreased...

...both in rate *and* absolute number over the last 15 years, all while the number of guns in
the US nearly doubled:

There were 3,076 women murdered in the US in 2000- source:

https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2000/table2-4_vicrace00.xls

143.4 women in the US in 2000-source:

https://www.census.gov/prod/2001pubs/c2kbr01-9.pdf

Rate: 1 in 46,619

There were 2,715 women murdered in the US (that number includes victims of unknown sex)
in 2014- source:

https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2014/crime-in-the-u.s.-2014/tables/expanded-homicide-data/expanded_homicide_data_table_1_murder_victims_by_race_ethnicity_and_sex_2014.xls


161,979,384 women in the US in 2014- source:

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html

Rate: 1 in 59,661

A decision to obtain (or not) a gun should be made for real reasons, not ficticious ones.

[Human101948]

1. Crazy is as crazy does...

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Source: Global Burden of Disease Study. Access the data visualization here: http://ihmeuw.org/3oi4
http://www.humanosphere.org/science/2015/10/visualizing-gun-deaths-comparing-u-s-rest-world/

[friendly_iconoclast]

2. Interesting graph. Perhaps you could post an OP about it.

In the meantime, did you have any comment about the OP?

You lot seem to be quite good at dodging inconvenient discussions-perhaps
you could offer up something to show that this stereotype has no basis in reality...

[Duckhunter935]

3. Citation please

Nice picture

[friendly_iconoclast]

4. If ever I organize a dodgeball team, I'll solicit gun control advocates as members

FSM knows they possess the necessary skillset...

[Duckhunter935]

5. That or a track team

They can run

[friendly_iconoclast]

6. They're just following the sage advice of King Arthur:

[Human101948]

9. You can debate all you want about how many angels can dance on the head of firing pin...

but the fact is we have a gun obsession unlike any other country--

I’ve been researching gun violence—and what can be done to prevent it—in the U.S. for 25 years. The fact is that if NRA claims about the efficacy of guns in reducing crime were true, the U.S. would have the lowest homicide rate among industrialized nations instead of the highest homicide rate (by a wide margin).

The U.S. is by far the world leader in the number of guns in civilian hands. The stricter gun laws of other “advanced countries” have restrained homicidal violence, suicides and gun accidents—even when, in some cases, laws were introduced over massive protests from their armed citizens.

http://www.newsweek.com/gun-control-what-we-can-learn-other-advanced-countries-379105

[friendly_iconoclast]

13. Again, a perfectly suitable subject for an OP. Meanwhile, you're still trying to threadjack...poorly

You lot have apparently gotten the idea into your heads that your unpopularity and
lack of political efficacy can be compensated with by doubling down on spamming.

[Straw Man]

15. Got a cite for that?

The fact is that if NRA claims about the efficacy of guns in reducing crime were true, the U.S. would have the lowest homicide rate among industrialized nations instead of the highest homicide rate (by a wide margin).

I wasn't aware that the NRA had made such a specific claim. What success rate did they project?

[beevul]

7. Fucking priceless. Bookmarked.

[Human101948]

10. Emoji boy strikes again!

Or is it Valley Girl?

[Duckhunter935]

11. not sure

[beevul]

12. Sorry, I missed what you said...

I was too distracted by you ignoring the OP.

[friendly_iconoclast]

14. Meh-it's not as if *you'll* come up with an effective (or even relevant) response to the OP

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Ever notice how the more outre' and unpopular someone's political stance is, the more they act out?

The RW occupies a wildlife refuge in a half-assed reenaction of "The Alamo", gun control
advocates satisfy themselves with insults, genitalia jokes and reposting other peoples' work...

[Eleanors38]

8. "Yet another study..." Heh.