Effective Firearms Regulation Is Constitutional

[SecularMotion]

THE sudden death of Justice Antonin Scalia of the Supreme Court brought renewed attention to one of his more heralded — and criticized — decisions: District of Columbia v. Heller, in which the court, by a 5-4 vote, held that the Second Amendment conferred an individual right “to keep and bear arms.”

The principal objection to tough gun laws is that they violate the Second Amendment. Opponents of gun control cite the 2008 Heller decision as proof that the Supreme Court agrees.

There is reason to doubt the soundness of that opinion. But even if the decision is not reversed, we believe it poses no obstacle for much stronger gun laws.

The need for tougher measures is clear. The federal law requiring a background check for a gun purchase can be summarized this way: People who want to buy guns have to submit to a background check, unless they don’t want to.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/24/opinion/effective-firearms-regulation-is-constitutional.html

[GreydeeThos]

1. We need literacy tests before voting to cut down on stupid voting

We need a poll tax to insure voters are of sufficient means to hold a stake in society.

These are simple effective ways to control the errant voting of incompetent people, and they are Constitutional.

[MillennialDem]

12. I'd be all for a science and math test before voting.

[ileus]

2. Denying rights because of emotion isn't progressive.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

3. UBCs won't be effective if the authorities allow people like

Loughner, Alexis, Cho, Hasan, Rodgers and Holmes to metastasize without intervention. Heck, we don't even need UBCs we just need the intervention.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

4. More dumb ideas from a storehouse of useless ideas

From your link:

Registration records would create a comprehensive database of all guns and their owners. During a criminal investigation, when a gun was recovered from a person who was not its registered owner, that person would face serious penalties. But so, too, would the registered owner if he had failed to report that the weapon was no longer in his possession.

Under this system, anyone selling or possessing unregistered firearms would face huge legal risks. Overnight, gunrunning and other illegal arms trafficking would become easier to prosecute.

Emerging technology will also help. Registration could include recording the unique characteristics of a firearm’s barrel. That, combined with stamping ammunition with identifiers, could someday make shooting at someone much like leaving fingerprints at the scene of the crime. Firearms offenders would become far easier to catch, and the prevalence of firearms crime would decline.

Is there a registration database somewhere in the world where crimes have been solved using the registered info?


I'm sure that all the criminals and owners of illegal guns will line up to register them.
They can't be charged with a crime if don't so why wouldn't they?



Are you kidding me? Barrel characteristics? Stamping ammunition?



Somewhere there must be a prize offered for stupid ideas and Mikva and Rosenthal must have been there to write them down.

[beevul]

5. "There is reason to doubt the soundness of that opinion."

"There is reason to doubt the soundness of that opinion."


And yet no reason is given. We're supposed to just take it on faith that there is, and ignore that this is an opinion piece, and an ignorant one at that.

[SecularMotion]

6. It's a Liberal Thing...You Wouldn't Understand

[beevul]

7. Its liberal to accept assertions at face value without evidence?

Its liberal to accept assertions at face value without evidence?

Since when?

That doesn't seem any too scientific or fact based, to me.

[Eleanors38]

9. Liberals are at their best by being... Liberal. I'm liberal on the Second. Understand?

[friendly_iconoclast]

10. And what is *your* definition of 'liberal'? Be specific.

[TeddyR]

13. Your assertion that this

Is "a liberal thing" is exactly like the assertion that there are reasons to doubt the Heller decision -- both are completely devoid of any supporting facts. Carry on.

[pablo_marmol]

14. Wrong as usual. It's a FAUX liberal thing, which we understand completely.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/7/4/881431/-

[sarisataka]

8. The reasoning is

"I don't like it"

Foot stomp and harmuph optional.

[benEzra]

11. The gun control lobby burned that bridge

when they decided to fight for banning Title 1 civilian guns.

Even the NRA was talking about being open to UBC's, sans registration, until the "assault weapon" fraud derailed the discussion, and ultimately derailed the entire gun control movement.