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Eugene

(61,894 posts)
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 10:13 AM Jun 2016

Indiana Man Arrested in LA Area Wasn't Allowed to Have Guns

Source: Associated Press

Indiana Man Arrested in LA Area Wasn't Allowed to Have Guns

By AMANDA LEE MYERS AND DYLAN LOVAN, ASSOCIATED PRESS CHARLESTOWN, Ind. — Jun 14, 2016, 3:23 AM ET

A man arrested in Southern California with three assault rifles who told police he was headed to a gay pride event had earlier been ordered by a judge in his home state of Indiana to give up all his guns.

But authorities there said Monday that they didn't make any surprise checks on James Wesley Howell to confirm he was following the probation requirement.

Howell has a California court appearance tentatively scheduled for Tuesday, but it wasn't yet clear what charges he'll face, if any.

He was arrested early Sunday in Santa Monica with the weapons and explosives in a car he apparently drove from Indiana. He told police he was headed to a gay pride event in West Hollywood that attracts hundreds of thousands of people.

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Wilms

(26,795 posts)
1. Well, there you have it.
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 10:24 AM
Jun 2016
But authorities there said Monday that they didn't make any surprise checks on James Wesley Howell to confirm he was following the probation requirement.

Was he to dispose of his guns via the honor system? Certainly fuels the argument that the laws we have should be enforced before we pass new laws.

Puha Ekapi

(594 posts)
2. Presactly....
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 10:30 AM
Jun 2016

The authorities had plenty of legal means at their disposal, but FAILED to make use of them.

Stupid grabbers think yet more laws will do the trick when the current laws are poorly enforced.

JonathanRackham

(1,604 posts)
3. Are the authorities so overburdenend that they miss the obvious so frequently?
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 12:23 PM
Jun 2016

Where the hell are their priorities in keeping us safe? Like cops at a donut shop across the street at a bank robbery.

Runningdawg

(4,516 posts)
4. In the past
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 01:54 PM
Jun 2016

Law Abiding Bob might have went to the gun store to buy a gun. Not today. Thanks to the NRA Law Abiding Bob is now convinced a background check=registration, your name is on a list that anyone can use to confiscate your weapons at any time.
Today a much larger percentage of gun sales are done in a parking lot, out of a trunk and a lot of those sales were set up using social media.
The lid has been blow off Pandoras box and new laws are not going to put an end to it.

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
5. Yeah sure, that must explain the record high number of backgorund checks for 2 years
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 02:31 PM
Jun 2016

I'm guessin' that you don't actually have any proof of that "surge in illegal sales" from a reliable, neutral source like the DoJ or FBI?

You just heard it somewhere or it's a kinda "well everybody just knows" thing?

Runningdawg

(4,516 posts)
6. Sure
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 03:56 PM
Jun 2016

let me pull evidence of gun running right out of my ass here. You want evidence, come to a gun show in Tulsa, we are famous for them in case you haven't heard. You can view for yourself the amount of guns being sold in the parking lot vs from a vendor.
From your response it would seem you think I am a gun grabber. Guess again. I own guns. LEGALLY. My guess is you do too, but you thought you were going to call out someone on the opposite side. Get real. Either you are clueless about gun culture or you know about, but choose to ignore the problem with illegal sales.

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
9. I go to gun shows all the time and according to the state troopers that run the background checks ..
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 04:21 PM
Jun 2016

... of course they could be lying, but the troopers said have had exactly one incident in over 20 years of a parking lot sale and it was a guy that didn't want to wait the 24 hours for the Marlin Model 60 he'd bought.

Both seller and buyers were arrested in the parking lot, cuffed and hauled away.

Maybe people in Illinois are just more law abiding than the criminals in Oklahoma or sneakier?

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
7. That's an interesting point...lawful buyer but would rather/choose to go private sale
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 04:05 PM
Jun 2016

to avoid any possibility of govt record/"registration".

I understand that of course, but haven't thought about it much in that way.

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