Man accused of pointing gun at another at Little League ballgame

[jpak]

http://www.bendbulletin.com/article/20120429/NEWS0107/204290398/

QUILCENE — A Washington man was arrested Saturday evening at a Little League field after he threatened another man with a gun during an altercation. The suspect, 58, was booked into Jefferson County jail on charges of assault in the first degree, reckless endangerment, and harassment, police said.

Witnesses told police that the suspect was using “loud and profane” language when another spectator, a 64-year-old Quilcene man asked him to watch his language in front of the children. The suspect then allegedly walked to his car, leading the witnesses to believe he was leaving. However, he returned with a handgun.

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More guns = more Second Amendment Solutions.

yup

[Hassin Bin Sober]

1. The stand your park bench doctrine.

[bottomofthehill]

2. Stand your ground

It is simple, this guy was obviously protecting his first amendment rights with his second amendment rights. who does this 64 year old guy think he is telling an armed citizen he can not curse in front of children at a little league baseball game.

The 58 year old was terrified for his life and introduced a handgun into the situation to show the children how to act in this type of situation.

[spin]

21. Obviously you have absolutely no understanding about the "Stand Your Ground" laws ...

I suggest you spend a little time doing some research rather than relying on the media to form your opinion.

[Hoyt]

3. Law-abiding gun culture member. Good thing he wasn't in a bar or something.

[bottomofthehill]

4. true that

Nothing fuels the flames like a few drinks.

Guns and Alcohol dont mix. I have a friend who says "alcohol always wins".. I have seen that true, couple of drinks and somthing stupid is bound to happen.

[ManiacJoe]

6. Because that would have made it doubly illegal?

[rl6214]

52. Oh no, a story with the word GUN in it...

Don't get your panties all in a bunch, if someone does a criminal act, arrest them, try them and IF convicted (not before like you would like to do) throw them in jail.





















At least you didn't use the word ZIMMERMAN in this post

[Hoyt]

53. Yea, a "man" with a gun who used it to intimidate people at a little league ball game.

It's a little bit late after the fact, just like Zimmerman.

[rl6214]

57. There ya go, now you got your zimmerman in there

What a joke.

[geckosfeet]

5. This guy will have his license to carry (if he even has one) revoked.

Depending on local regulations, an assault conviction will prohibit him from owning a firearm.

Can't say I would feel sorry the idiot.

[mvccd1000]

7. So you complain...

... when the law doesn't work as you think it should (Martin/Zimmerman), and you complain again when the law does work as it should (moron arrested for assault and probably several other charges).

That's productive.

[jpak]

11. Yeah - I complain when racist vigilantes hunt down and kill black kids

You can count on it.

yup

[Meiko]

28. When did that

happen?

[rl6214]

54. do you even know the definition of a vigilante?

I don't think so

[bahrbearian]

12. We're you not complaining about Zimmerman running free ?

[saras]

14. The law DIDN'T work. An innocent person got a gun shoved in their face.

I'd want five years of GOOD therapy for that - I'd want to get back to the place where that fear is completely gone, otherwise the fucker still owes me.

[mvccd1000]

32. How do you venture out during the day?

Therapy? For an assault or a robbery? I don't think your fear will ever be gone.

How many years of therapy does it take you to get over a bad breakup or a cake that falls flat?

[rl6214]

55. "How many years of therapy does it take you to get over a bad breakup or a cake that falls flat?"

[rrneck]

8. Bang that drum! Shake those psrtisan poms poms!

HEY! You didn't get a harumph from that guy!

[Johnny Rico]

17. Harumph!

[rrneck]

18. That's better.

Here y'go, in lieu of pay.

[oneshooter]

19. If you changed that rubber ball to a can of beans.

Then hoyt can carry it for self defence against mad men with knives.

Oneshooter
Armed and Livin in Texas

[rrneck]

20. Bet he could even open it under water. nt

[DanTex]

9. A typical "Defensive Gun Use".

[shadowrider]

10. Whatever

[ManiacJoe]

24. You have a odd definition of "defensive".

Or you forgot the sarcasm tag.

[iverglas]

33. can't wait for Kleck's next survey!

One more death averted by the timely display of a firearm.

[gejohnston]

35. Given that Kleck's survey

is backed up by 15 others (some older, dating back to the 1970s), including one funded by the Joyce Foundation (Phil Cook who used a smaller sample and got 1.5 million).

[DanTex]

37. Actually, Kleck himself admitted that his survey was a fraud.

And his co-author Gertz conceded that the methodology was completely inadequate to measure DGUs.

That was after a panel of seventy-four highly respected criminologists issued a unanimous statement about how the Kleck-Gertz study should never have been published, and it was an embarrassment to the field.

[gejohnston]

38. really?

where is the evidence?
Did the American Society of Criminology take away the Michael J. Hindelang Award from Kleck? Has he been fired from FSU as head of the criminology department?
Or is it another case of "I think and imagine so it must be fact" like your Bill Frist style tele-diagnosis of "toters" and self defense expertize?

[DanTex]

40. Evidence? Like the kind you provide? LOL!

I figured since you just make stuff up out of thin air, I would try it too! The "gejohnston method".

And I'll say, it's pretty fun! I'm starting to understand why you don't bother with the truth very often!

I think he's still at FSU. He couldn't get a job anywhere else, and even there he had to bribe the board of directors, but luck for him he managed to get the NRA to put up the cash.

[gejohnston]

41. really?

I figured since you just make stuff up out of thin air, I would try it too! The "gejohnston method".

No, I was learning from the best, the DanTex method.

And I'll say, it's pretty fun! I'm starting to understand why you don't bother with the truth very often!

disprove anything I have ever said.

I think he's still at FSU. He couldn't get a job anywhere else, and even there he had to bribe the board of directors, but luck for him he managed to get the NRA to put up the cash.

Couldn't get a job anyplace else? GW Bush could not get in FSU for the same reason University of Texas turned him down, because of his lack of merit. Harvard put his "legacy" ahead of his merit, and gave him a "gentleman's C" for showing up to class once in awhile. Harvard is a good school, but the Ivy League's habit of admitting stupid rich kids without merit makes them kind of overrated.
You mean the way Joyce Foundation funds Hemenway's department?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:JoyceFoundationGunControlFundingR1.png

[DanTex]

42. LOL. Disprove anything I ever said!

The gejohnston method, volume 2: make a bunch of false statements, and then insist the burden is me to prove you wrong.

Kleck got his job by getting the NRA to bribe the board of directors at FSU. Prove me wrong!

Being gejohnston is fun!

[gejohnston]

43. in other words

You gave up pretending to be a mathematician, self defense expert, shrink, and now you are down to falsely accusing me of making shit up. Cool. Just like McClatchey is a gun blog, and CBS is Fox. Of course you can't find any evidence of my making shit up.

I'll have to give playing DanTex a try.

[DanTex]

44. Got any evidence? Can you prove me wrong?

Nope. You can't back you're claims with evidence because they're not true!

[gejohnston]

45. we have provided evidence

so have I. That is a false statement.

[DanTex]

46. You have not provided evidence. That is a false statement!

[gejohnston]

47. you have been hanging around

a couple of the oneliners too much. Might check out some help.

[DanTex]

48. Change of subject = no evidence = you've been making things up!

[gejohnston]

49. change of subject

I provided evidence you didn't like or challenge=I made things up.
faux intellectualism at its most absurd.

[DanTex]

39. Studies show that firearms are the most effective form of defense against verbal abuse!

Over 5.7 million people each year protect their feelings from verbal assaults using a firearm. And 2.2M of those verbal assaults included profanity! Another 1.8M people defended themselves from dirty looks or obscene gestures.

That's why the American Psychiatric Association recommends that all people with frail egos carry around a pistol. Sticks and stones can break my bones, but words will never hurt me thanks to my trusty S&W!

[slackmaster]

50. It would be more accurate to say "Typical Little League parent going off the deep end"

But because the incident is typical of either people who use guns defensively or of Little League parents, either statement would be hyperbolic at best.

[Bonhomme Richard]

13. The problem isn't so much the guns. It's the.....

morons that have access to them.
Maybe if they agree to a psychological evaluation every two years they can be issued a permit.

[oneshooter]

15. Automobiles are used to kill more people than firearms.

Perhaps vehicle owners/operators should have a psychological evaluation every two years before they can be issued a permit.

Oneshooter
Armed and Livin in Texas

[Logical]

30. What? Are you saying cars are used for murder/assault more than guns?

[rl6214]

56. where did he say that?

[Logical]

62. Here we go again......

He said "Automobiles are used to kill more people than firearms."

"Used" sounds like you used it to kill someone.

He did not say. "Automobiles kill more people than firearms".

He said "used"

Sounds intentional.

[rl6214]

63. Don't get your panties all in a bunch

He said "Automobiles are used to kill more people than firearms."


He didn't say anything about "murder/assault", you did.

[spin]

22. How many psychologists would be required to administer such a test ...

and how many people who have real problems would not be able to get treatment because of the requirement for such testing?

[PavePusher]

23. Can I see your psych eval that says you're O.K. to let vote?

Seriously, we don't need crazy people voting on little things like the leader of the free world, or local D.A., amIrite?

[Meiko]

29. Who

Is going to issue test and who decides who is "stable" and who isn't. This psych test idea has been argued time and time again, it won't work.

[iverglas]

34. that's why the answer is so simple

There is simply no remotely reliable way to tell which person wandering around in public with a firearm is going to behave like this one, or in a myriad other antisocial/dangerous ways, so you don't let people wander around in public with firearms. How easy is that?

[Meiko]

58. Nope

That isn't going to work. You punish everyone for the actions of a few, besides there is that pesky 2nd Amendment we have to deal with.

[iverglas]

59. "Punish"?

My goodness, I had no idea that someone not allowed to wander around in public with guns also had to be fined, or is it imprisoned, or maybe just put on probation? Does being prohibited from wandering around in public with guns count as a first offence for one of those three-strikes laws? Does it mean you couldn't vote either?

I'm not allowed to drive the wrong way on a one-way street, or to drive over 50 km/h in the city. What am I being punished for???

"Punished". Such a lot of punishments as we who live in society have heaped on our heads.

Yes, that pesky 2nd amendment. The one that says everybody must be allowed to wander around in public with guns ...

Where do I find that one?

[DanTex]

61. I think "torture" is more accurate than "punish".

Not being allowed to walk around with a loaded gun is "torture".

You knoe, they waterboarded Khalid Sheikh Mohammed 183 times, but it wasn't until they forced him to walk down the street without a loaded gun that he cracked and started giving up intel!

[ileus]

64. anyone with a gun is mental.....remember

[ileus]

16. We lost our first LL game yesterday, and I didn't point my firearm at anyone.

We were also well on the way to losing our first Softball game before it was rained out in the 3ed.

[KT2000]

25. It was stand your ground

or at least that is the way Dixon saw it.

"Dixon did not fire the weapon, Stamper said, and told deputies after he was arrested “that he had felt threatened by the Quilcene man” who asked him to watch his mouth."

[sarisataka]

26. Except that

he had to leave to get his gun then come back-- no SYG

[KT2000]

31. Yeah - but

I bet he felt threatened all the way home and back. It is really scary when someone tells a person to quit swearing around the kids.

[ManiacJoe]

27. You forgot the sarcasm tag.

[iverglas]

36. he retreated!

No honour at all, that fellow.

Obviously he saw the shameful nature of his actions and thought better of them, and returned to stand his ground properly.

[ileus]

51. I had to resist the urge to point my gun at a woman that cursed at our

softball game this evening...


No wait...I was wrong. I didn't even carry my safety device with me this evening. However.com there was an asshat parent that cursed way too much there.

[HALO141]

60. Obviously, we need to ban little league.

It clearly causes people to become unstable.



yup