So you want to fight misuse and crime via prohibition of currently-legal items?

[friendly_iconoclast]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2012/02/17/oxycontin-warning-first-nations.html

Expect OxyContin health crisis, warns First Nations leader
Drug to be pulled off market at the end of February

Exactly six months later:

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/1243530--oxycontin-replaced-by-explosion-of-small-town-heroin-use

OxyContin replaced by explosion of small-town heroin use
Published on Friday August 17, 2012


Perhaps someone can explain why the same wouldn't happen with guns, were certain persons and groups to get their way...

[djean111]

1. Seems like a false equivalence to me.

Are you saying that if guns were confiscated, the gun people would just switch to bows and arrows?

[rDigital]

2. I think the

false equivalence might be in your answer. I think that he's trying to say that if guns were made illegal, bad people would still have them and use them regardless of what the laws are.

[friendly_iconoclast]

3. I'm saying they will go for the functional equivalent- smuggled guns

It's not as if we are lacking for historical examples- just read Daniel Okrent's "Last Call: The Rise and Fall of Prohibition", for one.

[djean111]

4. As a Floridian, I am more and more concerned - no, wait, scared -

about the concealed carry, open carry, whatever, that is now evidently okay in bars and restaurants and movies, and just walking down the street.
I don't think that arming everybody is the answer.
It would be awesome if people with guns only shot other people with guns, but that is not how it seems to be working out.

[friendly_iconoclast]

5. Florida has had concealed-carry for years, along with a dropping crime and murder rate.

[gejohnston]

6. Interesting

I feel safer in Wyoming than I do in Florida. We even had a rifle club, and put our guns in our lockers on that day.

It would be awesome if people with guns only shot other people with guns, but that is not how it seems to be working out.

The vast majority of people shooting each other are gangsters.

[PavePusher]

8. If you are in Florida and see open carry....

unless it's on private property or a hunting/fishing jaunt, they are "doing it wrong".

Could you cite to some stats that are cause for concern? And also to anyone who has advocated for "arming everybody"?

[spin]

9. As a Floridian you have a higher chance of getting struck by lightning ...

then being shot by a person with a concealed weapons permit (unless you are attacking him with the intention of seriously incurring or killing him.)

You state:

It would be awesome if people with guns only shot other people with guns, but that is not how it seems to be working out.

Does that mean that you do not consider a person armed with a knife or club to be dangerous? Do you believe that I should take on a much younger man in good physical condition with only my fists, knowing that he intends to seriously injure me? (I have degenerative disc disease in my back and am a candidate for a hip replacement and am also 66 years old.) Let's suppose that I am far younger and in good physical condition but find myself attacked by several other individuals, should I try to pretend that I am Bruce Lee?



Let's suppose that I am a small female who finds herself attacked by a much stronger and larger male rapist? Should I submit and try to enjoy the attack when I have a legal firearm to defend myself?

Edited to add:

In Florida you can't legally carry a firearm in a bar even if you have a concealed weapons permit.

The 2012 Florida Statutes

Chapter 790
WEAPONS AND FIREARMS

***snip***

12)(a) A license issued under this section does not authorize any person to openly carry a handgun or carry a concealed weapon or firearm into:

***snip***

12. Any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, which portion of the establishment is primarily devoted to such purpose;
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0700-0799/0790/Sections/0790.06.html