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mikeb302000

(1,065 posts)
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 02:48 AM Oct 2012

Fargo Man Shoots Himself by Accident - No Charges

Local news reports

The man was on his way to the hospital at about 1:50 a.m. when he called authorities to report the incident, Sgt. Jim Kringlie said. Two other people were home at the time of the accidental shooting in the 2200 block of 57th Avenue South, but they were not injured.

The pistol was a .40-caliber Glock similar to what police carry, Kringlie said.

“To disassemble it, you do have to pull the trigger, but you’re supposed to empty it first,” he said.

While it’s illegal to discharge a firearm within city limits, police are not recommending prosecution, Kringlie said.


Total nonchalance. Why would they want to charge a guy for proving he's an irresponsible and dangerous gun owner? That might prevent his killing someone next time he forgets there's one in the chamber.

My opinion is this is absolutely unacceptable. The pro-gun crowd like to downplay the personal responsibility in these cases because they what the same tolerance themselves when they do something stupid. It's wrong. Gun owners should he held to a higher standard that does not allow for "accidents." One strike your out is the answer because you can be sure these people we read about every day are not making their very first mistake ever, and, unfortunately, the way the general acceptance of their misbehavior is now, it won't be their last.

What's your opinion? Please leave a comment.
Cross posted at Mikeb302000
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Fargo Man Shoots Himself by Accident - No Charges (Original Post) mikeb302000 Oct 2012 OP
there is the intent issue, gejohnston Oct 2012 #1
If a barber nicks you, Glaug-Eldare Oct 2012 #2
"One strike and your out." Sounds like super-GOP stuff. Sheeesh. Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #29
Indeed, one strike and you're out should be the rule with anything that can injure another person. JoeyT Oct 2012 #3
AFAIK, gejohnston Oct 2012 #4
Your suppose to rack open the slide first to determine its not loaded.... Historic NY Oct 2012 #5
"No Charges" PavePusher Oct 2012 #6
"My opinion is this is absolutely ..." holdencaufield Oct 2012 #7
If this was in Tennessee ... holdencaufield Oct 2012 #8
"My opinion is this is absolutely unacceptable." beevul Oct 2012 #9
All of lifes lessons are learned through pain. ileus Oct 2012 #10
One time many years ago Berserker Oct 2012 #11
I did something like that with a golf club in a fit of anger. ileus Oct 2012 #12
Does anyone REALLY need to play golf? holdencaufield Oct 2012 #15
I use a straight razor to shave ... holdencaufield Oct 2012 #13
As the OP says Berserker Oct 2012 #14
When you're not using the razor do you lock it up? ileus Oct 2012 #16
Actually -- it sits on dry towel next to the sink holdencaufield Oct 2012 #17
You're a wreckless man....hidden criminal if you will. ileus Oct 2012 #18
Not hidden at all ... holdencaufield Oct 2012 #20
Norelco. There's a great cuture in it! Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #30
Electric razors ... holdencaufield Oct 2012 #35
One strike my out? Huh? Common Sense Party Oct 2012 #19
One strike? We're not dealing with a Major League Baseball player here. Remmah2 Oct 2012 #22
It's foul, that's for sure. Common Sense Party Oct 2012 #24
Criminals get as many strikes as they need sarisataka Oct 2012 #27
Lets apply Pne Strike to nuisance posts. Hangingon Oct 2012 #21
"The pro-gun crowd like to downplay the personal responsibility" Remmah2 Oct 2012 #23
That's the proper decision: criminal charges would be inappropriate for an accident such as this, petronius Oct 2012 #25
I challenge you to show any one of us downplaying glacierbay Oct 2012 #26
A neutron accidentally shoots himself. Remmah2 Oct 2012 #28
[Rim Shot] holdencaufield Oct 2012 #36
Basic gun safety should be taught in public schools slackmaster Oct 2012 #31
zero tolerance polices = zero thought policies Atypical Liberal Oct 2012 #32
Rule #1, A gun is ALWAYS loaded. Treat it as such. Ashgrey77 Oct 2012 #33
Blah, blah, blah, many strikes on your part and you're still here rl6214 Oct 2012 #34

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
1. there is the intent issue,
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 02:56 AM
Oct 2012

plus violating a city ordnance is a fine. Since more people are killed with cars, are a major contributer to climate change, and their invention enabled highways and big box stores, I propose the same law for cars. Any fender bender or traffic ticket results in your DL being revoked and, in the case of the fender bender, being charged with destruction of property even if there is no criminal intent.

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
3. Indeed, one strike and you're out should be the rule with anything that can injure another person.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 03:04 AM
Oct 2012

I favor one strike and your out license revocation as well. The first time you get a speeding or parking ticket, you can never drive again as long as you live. Once you prove you're a dangerous and irresponsible driver, that should be it. Period.

Or are we doing that special pleading thing where the only thing that counts is what we're currently on a crusade against?

My opinion is the dude probably learned his lesson from the bigass hole he's currently sporting that wasn't there this morning. I'm not sure how common having to pull the trigger is for disassembling a handgun, since I'm not a big handgun guy. It seems like kind of a stupid feature, but for all I know 90% of handguns may require it.

 

PavePusher

(15,374 posts)
6. "No Charges"
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 04:14 AM
Oct 2012

I think shooting yourself is pretty much all the punishment anyone needs or deserves.

That's my fisking opinion.

 

holdencaufield

(2,927 posts)
7. "My opinion is this is absolutely ..."
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 04:20 AM
Oct 2012

inconsequential.

Unless it is amended, the SCOTUS interpretation of the 2nd Amendment of the US Constitution is the only opinion that counts.

 

holdencaufield

(2,927 posts)
8. If this was in Tennessee ...
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 04:22 AM
Oct 2012

... and it happened near a public school ... he could be charged with trying to prove Darwin's Theory.

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
9. "My opinion is this is absolutely unacceptable."
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 04:49 AM
Oct 2012

Here, let me fix that for you:

"My opinion is this is absolutely unacceptable."


Much better.

 

Berserker

(3,419 posts)
11. One time many years ago
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 07:57 AM
Oct 2012

I read where if you froze pot in a container in the freezer it would become more potent. So I froze some in a plastic medicine container. I then took a knife in my right hand and the container in my left and proceeded to extract the high potency killer weed. The knife while under great pressure broke through the container and plunged 2 inches deep into my left hand and hit and artery.


My opinion is this is absolutely unacceptable. The pro-knife crowd like to downplay the personal responsibility in these cases because they want the same tolerance themselves when they do something stupid. It's wrong. Knife owners should he held to a higher standard that does not allow for "accidents." One strike your out is the answer because you can be sure these people we read about every day are not making their very first mistake ever, and, unfortunately, the way the general acceptance of their misbehavior is now, it won't be their last.
What's your opinion? Please leave a comment.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
12. I did something like that with a golf club in a fit of anger.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 08:10 AM
Oct 2012

I missed what should have been an easy putt. Like most that day, however.com this on broke the camels back.

I broke it once over my knee, doubled up both pieces and attempted to do it again. However.com I lost grip on one end and with the swift movement I sliced open the top knuckle of my pinky to the bone. One hand surgery later I'd learned never to get upset while playing golf.

I'm happy to report these days I don't mind having a crappy score I've come to accept I can't putt worth a crap.


Should we ban metal shaft clubs? Probably not.

 

holdencaufield

(2,927 posts)
15. Does anyone REALLY need to play golf?
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 09:10 AM
Oct 2012

Given all the tragic injuries and loss of lives associate with the game ... it seems only fair to ban it.

 

holdencaufield

(2,927 posts)
13. I use a straight razor to shave ...
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 08:18 AM
Oct 2012

... if I ever nick myself, will I be legal obligated to switch to Nair?

 

holdencaufield

(2,927 posts)
17. Actually -- it sits on dry towel next to the sink
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 09:21 AM
Oct 2012

I want it handy if I ever have to deal with an attack of the five o'clock shadow.

Common Sense Party

(14,139 posts)
19. One strike my out? Huh?
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 09:44 AM
Oct 2012

I assume you mean "you're" out...

Do you also believe in one strike you're out for drug possession? Armed robbery? Car theft? Breaking and entering? I assume so.

 

Remmah2

(3,291 posts)
22. One strike? We're not dealing with a Major League Baseball player here.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 10:38 AM
Oct 2012

It's more of a foul ball philosophy.

sarisataka

(18,656 posts)
27. Criminals get as many strikes as they need
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 12:04 PM
Oct 2012

Haven't we been told you should let yourself be killed since someday that criminal may be the one who cures cancer? The criminal is obviously a better person than you.
<insert smilie here>

 

Remmah2

(3,291 posts)
23. "The pro-gun crowd like to downplay the personal responsibility"
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 10:50 AM
Oct 2012

Really?

You obviously don't read complete threads. You cherry pick and choose based on your twisted agenda.

You're not truthful but at least you're entertaining.

petronius

(26,602 posts)
25. That's the proper decision: criminal charges would be inappropriate for an accident such as this,
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 11:46 AM
Oct 2012

and one-strike life-time bans are wildly excessive. Is there any other area of human activity where you would advocate such a stringent standard?

 

glacierbay

(2,477 posts)
26. I challenge you to show any one of us downplaying
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 12:03 PM
Oct 2012

personal safety! C'mon Mikey, you made the claim, now put up with proof.
Why would you want to add to this guy's pain with a criminal charge? Is this what you've come down to?
Accidents happen Mikey, so what? I'll be willing to bet he doesn't do that again, he learned his lesson.

Let's apply your one strike and your out to driving also, one accident and your license goes bye bye. Think that's fair? After all, it's the same principle.
Just admit it, you want gun laws so draconian that no one would qualify to own one and then you would get your gun ban that you and your ilk so desire.
Well, guess what? There are appox. 80-90 million of us in this country, which BTW, you don't even live in, that will oppose the likes of you at every step.
So take your best shot skippy. (pun intended)

 

rl6214

(8,142 posts)
34. Blah, blah, blah, many strikes on your part and you're still here
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 08:30 PM
Oct 2012

ETA: you are a self proclaim "legal and illegal gun owner" why are you not in prison for your "one strike, you're out" rule?

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