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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 07:00 AM Oct 2012

Demand a Plan



Dear President Obama and Governor Romney,

The recent mass shootings in Colorado and Wisconsin were terrible tragedies and painful reminders of the cost of gun violence.

More than 48,000 Americans will be murdered with guns during the next president’s term. That’s why I’m calling on you to step forward with a substantive plan to end gun violence.

What we need from our nation’s leaders is more than just a moment of silence -- we need a moment of courage.

I demand a plan to end gun violence.

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Demand a Plan (Original Post) SecularMotion Oct 2012 OP
What percentage of those 48,000 will be killed with legally owned guns? michreject Oct 2012 #1
I demand an end to automobile related deaths ... holdencaufield Oct 2012 #2
The plan: nice semi auto pistol, HD rifle (AK/AR), good SD shotgun. ileus Oct 2012 #3
My plan ... holdencaufield Oct 2012 #4
I bought a 357 blackhawk earlier this year. ileus Oct 2012 #5
I really enjoy ... holdencaufield Oct 2012 #6
There's a guy here at the hospital trying to sell me a 45 LC vaquero ileus Oct 2012 #7
I like .44 but ... holdencaufield Oct 2012 #9
I was wanting a 44 to hunt with, and didn't want a Thompson type pistol. ileus Oct 2012 #13
I just bought a Rock Island 1911 to go along with my Sprinfield XD45 for HD and zombie attacks rl6214 Oct 2012 #25
Good work ... holdencaufield Oct 2012 #27
Ok I will Berserker Oct 2012 #8
"I demand a plan"? PavePusher Oct 2012 #10
There was only one illegal gun carrier in that theater. Remmah2 Oct 2012 #11
Another shill parroting Brady Campaign/VPC/MAIG talking points... -..__... Oct 2012 #12
My former commander would say... sarisataka Oct 2012 #14
My last CO would say oneshooter Oct 2012 #15
They must have gone to the same OCS sarisataka Oct 2012 #16
My CO glacierbay Oct 2012 #18
It's better to have your own plan before you need it. ileus Oct 2012 #17
My plan involves a Glock 17 & a Colt M4 (semi-only). nt rDigital Oct 2012 #19
I demand a plan to end... LP2K12 Oct 2012 #20
I demand a cure to Type 1 diabetes, I figure 30 years with it is long enough rl6214 Oct 2012 #26
I hammered several zombies at the Caldwell County Line Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #21
Hey, Sec, you've already posted this youtube video, why again? Jenoch Oct 2012 #22
guns don't kill people, early released violent offenders kill people. trouble.smith Oct 2012 #23
Yes, demand it...get it done. What are YOU doing to get it done... rl6214 Oct 2012 #24
 

holdencaufield

(2,927 posts)
4. My plan ...
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 08:21 AM
Oct 2012

... a .357 lever rifle and a pair of six guns for HD

... a lever shotgun, a deer rifle and a .22lr bolt to put food on the table

... and a .45 ACP for Zombies (luck favours the prepared)

ileus

(15,396 posts)
5. I bought a 357 blackhawk earlier this year.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 09:09 AM
Oct 2012

Stainless, boy was she a beauty...Shot it a bunch then just polished her up and in the safe she went.

Long story short, a co-worker wanted it so I ended up letting it go. Just like the 2 44 mag blackhawks I used to have I miss it now. I knew better....that's the sad part.

 

holdencaufield

(2,927 posts)
6. I really enjoy ...
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 09:15 AM
Oct 2012

... my matched (consecutive serial numbers) .357 Ruger Vaquero's blued with rosewood handles and the Kirkpatrick Cross Draw Two Gun Rig in which I carry them.

I won't tell you how long I practised to be able to re-holster without looking -- keeping my eye on the target.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
7. There's a guy here at the hospital trying to sell me a 45 LC vaquero
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 09:46 AM
Oct 2012

But I just don't have a use for it....


I sold my 357 because the day I went to Roanoke I was intending on another 44mag. They didn't have one in stock and I didn't want to wait so I settled for a 357. Never buy a gun you're only half-hearted set on.

 

holdencaufield

(2,927 posts)
9. I like .44 but ...
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 10:08 AM
Oct 2012

... .357 / 38 is so much less expensive to practice and I practice a lot. I shoot 200 rounds a month of .38 or .357 compared to 50 of .45 ACP (I don't own a .44). Also, in my opinion, in a HD scenario, it's less likely harm something I can't see on the other side of a wall and, while intelligent people can argue about stopping power, I've never heard of anyone who wasn't a Sasquatch who was still in the mood to scrap after taking a .38 bullet centre mass from five feet away.

Also, my wife and daughter prefer the smaller calibre and they're just as prepared as I to draw if required.

Additionally, because I started shooting when I lived in a country where getting a firearm was a legal nightmare, I evaluate every purchase over and over before purchasing. I wasn't spoiled for choice until returning to the USA.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
13. I was wanting a 44 to hunt with, and didn't want a Thompson type pistol.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 10:37 AM
Oct 2012

I bought a 10mm after I sold the 357 and thought I may hunt with it some (under 30 yards) and use it for SD. The cost of "plinking" ammo and the fact I don't reload kinda soaked my bad planning with the 10mm. I ended up selling it also.

Now I'm just sitting on some extra "pistol" cash waiting patiently....for what I'm not sure. I've kinda cooled on the hunting pistol idea, so I'm waiting for a pistol to fill an unknown purpose.

My wife an daughter much prefer my 22's. My wife carries a 642 for her EDC and she loves shooting that little guy.

 

rl6214

(8,142 posts)
25. I just bought a Rock Island 1911 to go along with my Sprinfield XD45 for HD and zombie attacks
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 06:17 AM
Oct 2012

I figure that should be a pretty lethal duo to go along with my AR15's and M1 Garands. I little mix of the old with the new.

 

Berserker

(3,419 posts)
8. Ok I will
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 09:50 AM
Oct 2012

step forward with a substantive plan to end gun violence.

Better mental health care for all Americans. (Including the mentally unstable that believe taking away guns from law abiding citizens will stop the violence). We know they need help.

 

PavePusher

(15,374 posts)
10. "I demand a plan"?
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 10:23 AM
Oct 2012
Children make demands. Adults come up with a plan and the guts to push for it on their own.
 

Remmah2

(3,291 posts)
11. There was only one illegal gun carrier in that theater.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 10:31 AM
Oct 2012

The rest of the persons at the theater were obeying the "no-guns-allowed" policy of the theater.

Alls it would have taken was one person of good conscience and action to prevent or stop this. That would be a moment of courage.


sarisataka

(18,656 posts)
14. My former commander would say...
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 11:06 AM
Oct 2012

"OK, you found a problem. What is your solution?"

He believed we were adults capable of taking action, not children who needed to be cared for...

 

glacierbay

(2,477 posts)
18. My CO
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 01:40 PM
Oct 2012

would say, "If you find a problem, you better damn well know how fix it or know someone who does". Do all CO's go to the same school?

ileus

(15,396 posts)
17. It's better to have your own plan before you need it.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 01:35 PM
Oct 2012

From your home to out of the street, you need to have a pretty good idea of how to defend yourself, family, and property.

If you wait until the last minute you could find yourself on the wrong side of the ground.

 

rl6214

(8,142 posts)
26. I demand a cure to Type 1 diabetes, I figure 30 years with it is long enough
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 06:20 AM
Oct 2012

as long as we are making unrealistic demands.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
21. I hammered several zombies at the Caldwell County Line
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 04:09 PM
Oct 2012

with my .38. If they are packing (do zombies pack?). That was my plan: To keep 'em out of Austin!

 

rl6214

(8,142 posts)
24. Yes, demand it...get it done. What are YOU doing to get it done...
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 06:13 AM
Oct 2012

other than whining on the internet about it? How much have YOU contributed to the Brady campaign, the VPC or MAIG? How often do YOU call your congressman, senator or the President?

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