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Dog Gone at Penigma

(433 posts)
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 06:39 PM Dec 2012

Please sign a petition to the White House on gun legislation

cross posted from facebook:

I did something useful this afternoon; I went to the white house gov petitions site, and not only signed ALL of the petitions to pro actively enact and promote safer gun laws - there are approximately 166 possible petitions to sign (and a lot of them are seeking to put guns in schools, and armed veterans in schools); I also started a petition of my own, because I didn't see anything similar.

My petition is one I hope will be reviewed by Vice President Biden, and incorporated in the recommendations he makes to Congress. My petition was that all gun owners must carry liability insurance on every gun they own, lease, or use.

To be seen among the 166 petitions, I have to first have 150 people sign that petition. So I would like to start with all of you, and have you share it with your friends and family.

Liability insurance would be like car insurance; it would mean that those who are harmed by someone's gun, whether they use it or it is used by someone else (with or without their permission) could expect to be compensated for their medical bills, for pain and suffering, for lost wages. In the event of fatalities, that could mean paying for the very expensive costs of a funeral. In the event of property damage, it could mean reimbursement for loss or damage.

Firearms use causes a lot of expense, and too often the victim has to bear that burden, or the taxpayers, or a mix of both. In this respect we should not be treating guns any different than automobiles. Depending which side you sympathize with, if you remember the wrongful death civil case of O.J. Simpson, the advantages to the gun owner with having insurance, to pay for any liability, rather than risk losing what you own or earn, should also be obvious. It is a win-win suggestion that benefits gun owners as well, in the way auto insurance works with accidents, including those that could occur if your car was stolen and involved in an accident.

If liability insurance becomes widely used, comprehensive property insurance should also become more cheaply and widely available that could compensate the gun owner for loss, theft, or damage of their firearms and related firearm equipment.

Please sign, and please ask others to sign. I have only 30 days to get 25,000 signatures. The sooner the petition has 150, the sooner other people can see it easily on the white house gov web site. Thank you.

The petition is available here: [link:I did something useful this afternoon; I went to the white house gov petitions site, and not only signed ALL of the petitions to ban assault style weapons and expanded capacity magazines and to proactively enact and promote safer gun laws - there are approximately 166 possible petitions to sign (and a lot of them are seeking to put guns in schools, and armed veterans in schools); I also started a petition of my own, because I didn't see anything similar. My petition is one I hope will be reviewed by Vice President Biden, and incorporated in the recommendations he makes to Congress. My petition was that all gun owners must carry liability insurance on every gun they own, lease, or use. To be seen among the 166 petitions, I have to first have 150 people sign that petition. So I would like to start with all of you, and have you share it with your friends and family. Liability insurance would be like car insurance; it would mean that those who are harmed by someone's gun, whether they use it or it is used by someone else (with or without their permission) could expect to be compensated for their medical bills, for pain and suffering, for lost wages. In the event of fatalities, that could mean paying for the very expensive costs of a funeral. In the event of property damage, it could mean reimbursement for loss or damage. Firearms use causes a lot of expense, and too often the victim has to bear that burden, or the taxpayers, or a mix of both. In this respect we should not be treating guns any different than automobiles. Please sign, and please ask others to sign. I have only 30 days to get 25,000 signatures. The sooner the petition has 150, the sooner other people can see it easily on the white house gov web site. Thank you.

http://wh.gov/n968|http://wh.gov/n968]

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Please sign a petition to the White House on gun legislation (Original Post) Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 OP
Looks good but people here could figure out my real name if I signed it. Kaleva Dec 2012 #1
NO - don't sign it HERE Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #2
I see the names and addresses of 15 people who signed so far. Kaleva Dec 2012 #3
The liability insurance issue has been discussed here before. krispos42 Dec 2012 #4

Kaleva

(36,307 posts)
1. Looks good but people here could figure out my real name if I signed it.
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 06:57 PM
Dec 2012

I live in a small town and it wouldn't take much effort to find out who I am.

2. NO - don't sign it HERE
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 07:06 PM
Dec 2012

Sign it on the White House site!

It shouldn't show your name in a way that people would see. Better than that, it is already getting so many signatures right away that your name should disappear in the mix!

Kaleva

(36,307 posts)
3. I see the names and addresses of 15 people who signed so far.
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 07:09 PM
Dec 2012

It doesn't give the full last names. Just the letter the last name starts with.

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
4. The liability insurance issue has been discussed here before.
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 12:14 AM
Dec 2012

The general consensus seemed to be that, since career criminals who can't legally own guns to begin with commit most of the gun-related violence, this would only punish innocent people.


Take me, for example. If I shoot somebody, it's because that person was breaking into my house and endangering my family, and him or his estate should be paying ME for any legal, medical, and mental health costs I or my family incurs.


Likewise, if I screw up at the shooting range or decide to turn to a life of crime, I expect that I'll be held liable in criminal and civil court.

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