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unhappycamper

(60,364 posts)
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 06:09 AM Dec 2013

PTSD Is Not New

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/12/12/they-just-wanted-to-ruin-my-head-records-show-army-lobotomized-2000-ww2-vets/



‘They just wanted to ruin my head’: Records show Army lobotomized 2,000 WW2 vets
By Arturo Garcia
Thursday, December 12, 2013 21:03 EST

Newly uncovered documents show the U.S. Army embraced frontal lobotomy as a way to treat at least 2,000 troops in the aftermath of World War II, the Wall Street Journal reported.

“They just wanted to ruin my head, it seemed to me,” one veteran, Roman Tritz, told the Journal. “Somebody wanted to.”

Tritz, now 90 years old, told the Journal he was forcibly lobotomized on July 1, 1953, after resisting previous attempts. Though the Department of Veterans Affairs has no record of the procedures taking place, the Journal cited government records, inter-office correspondence and letters in reporting that they took place at VA facilities around the country to treat troops who were identified as gay, along with those diagnosed with schizophrenia, depression and psychosis. The records show the bulk of the procedures were carried out between April 1947 and September 1950.

The Journal reported that VA head Frank Hines approved the use of lobotomies in July 1943, two years before he was replaced at the position by President Harry Truman. The chief proponent of the procedure — which involved driving an ice pick-like instrument through the patient’s eye socket — was neurologist Walter J. Freeman, despite objections from other VA medical professionals; one psychiatrist reportedly accused Freeman of wanting to employ lobotomies to treat “practically everything from delinquency to a pain in the neck.”

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PTSD Is Not New (Original Post) unhappycamper Dec 2013 OP
George Carlin thelordofhell Dec 2013 #1
It just went by different names, like shell shock and battle fatigue. Arkansas Granny Dec 2013 #2
An Uncle of mine came back from Korea diagnosed with 'shell shock' unhappycamper Dec 2013 #3
I believe that much of the "wild west" was a result of the influx of damaged Civil War Vets Victor_c3 Dec 2013 #5
During the American civil war it was called thucythucy Dec 2013 #4
I think I like that term the best Victor_c3 Dec 2013 #6

unhappycamper

(60,364 posts)
3. An Uncle of mine came back from Korea diagnosed with 'shell shock'
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 06:37 AM
Dec 2013

After returning to CONUS, he lived at a local VA hospital until he died in the late 50s.

You will find instances of PTSD/shell shock/battle fatugue/damaged individuals in every war.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
5. I believe that much of the "wild west" was a result of the influx of damaged Civil War Vets
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 12:34 PM
Dec 2013

They had a hard time fitting in with "normal" society so they headed out west.

Not really a point to be made by that, just an interesting aside I thought.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
6. I think I like that term the best
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 12:51 PM
Dec 2013

However, from my own personal experiencess and from the reading I have done, PTSD impacts people in different ways.

I would characterize my PTSD issues as more of an emotional/guilt based one. I don't know if that is any sort of a clinically accurate way to describe it, but that is how I personally feel.

Terms like "moral injury" also are attached to PTSD as well.

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