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douglas9

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Mon May 25, 2015, 12:57 PM May 2015

U.S. military and civilians are increasingly divided

Jovano Graves' parents begged him not to join the Army right out of high school in 2003, when U.S. troops were fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan.

But their son refused his parents' pleas to try college. He followed them both into the Army instead.

Last June, 11 years later, Staff Sgt. Jovano Graves returned home from Afghanistan, joining his mother, Chief Warrant Officer 4 Sonia Graves-Rivers, for duty here at Ft. Bragg.

"My family, going way, way back, has always felt so proud to be Americans," said Graves-Rivers, who comes from a family in which military service spans six generations, starting with her great-great-grandfather, Pfc. Marion Peeples, who served in a segregated black unit during World War I.

Her father, Cpl. Harvey Lee Peeples, fought in the Vietnam War. Her uncle, Henry Jones, was career Air Force. Another uncle, Sgt. 1st Class Robert Graves, spent 22 years in the Army. Her sister, Janice, served 24 years.

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While the U.S. waged a war in Vietnam 50 years ago with 2.7 million men conscripted from every segment of society, less than one-half of 1% of the U.S. population is in the armed services today — the lowest rate since World War II. America's recent wars are authorized by a U.S. Congress whose members have the lowest rate of military service in history, led by three successive commanders in chief who never served on active duty.l

Surveys suggest that as many as 80% of those who serve come from a family in which a parent or sibling is also in the military. They often live in relative isolation — behind the gates of military installations such as Ft. Bragg or in the deeply military communities like Fayetteville, N.C., that surround them.

The segregation is so pronounced that it can be traced on a map: Some 49% of the 1.3 million active-duty service members in the U.S. are concentrated in just five states — California, Virginia, Texas, North Carolina and Georgia.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-warrior-main-20150524-story.html

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U.S. military and civilians are increasingly divided (Original Post) douglas9 May 2015 OP
And this is the strongest argument for the draft. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #1
I don't know newfie11 May 2015 #2
And the magnitude of the antiwar protests Jackpine Radical May 2015 #3

Jackpine Radical

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1. And this is the strongest argument for the draft.
Mon May 25, 2015, 01:05 PM
May 2015

Draftees are much less likely than volunteers to willingly participate in the suppression of unrest at home.

You don't put draftees into your modern Praetorian Guard.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
3. And the magnitude of the antiwar protests
Mon May 25, 2015, 02:15 PM
May 2015

was in no small measure due to the draft. Kids subject to the draft protested, and vets returning joined them.

Had it not been for Nixon's treason in dealing with the North to manipulate the US election, the war might have ended in 1968. Johnson had hoped to conclude the peace negotiations by then in order to take the issue off the table for Humphrey.

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