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Jilly_in_VA

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Wed Oct 6, 2021, 03:55 PM Oct 2021

Brown, Desi, South Asian: Diaspora reflects on the terms that represent, erase them

Over the last several decades, the diaspora of the Indian subcontinent has been labeled, relabeled and lumped together too many times to count. Indian and Pakistani immigrants were known as “Black” in 1980’s United Kingdom. The U.S. census classified them as “white” in 1970, and a host of transnational solidarity movements have cycled them through lengthy acronyms and broad umbrella terms.

“South Asian,” “brown” and “Desi” are three that are dominant today. For some, they’re apt names to describe inherently similar cultures and a connected history. Others say they paint over a vast array of peoples who make up the subcontinent and its diasporas. Erasure is rampant, some say, and it happens inside “South Asian” circles as much as outside them.

The debate has raged online for years — when referring to the diaspora, should we be as specific as possible or as inclusive as possible? And is there a way to do both?

The three terms sometimes don’t do what they were intended to, experts say, and it’s important to note that they don’t always mean the same thing.

“They each have a place, but they don’t entirely encompass each of the others,” said Jasvir Singh, an activist who is a co-founder of South Asian Heritage Month in the U.K.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/brown-desi-south-asian-diaspora-reflects-terms-represent-erase-rcna1886

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Brown, Desi, South Asian: Diaspora reflects on the terms that represent, erase them (Original Post) Jilly_in_VA Oct 2021 OP
I think it's more realistic to refer to "ethnic groups" rather than try to define abqtommy Oct 2021 #1

abqtommy

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1. I think it's more realistic to refer to "ethnic groups" rather than try to define
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 04:30 PM
Oct 2021

skin colors. But that's just me. I've observed that skin colors even within different
ethnic groups will vary. That's just the way it is here in the real world.

Thanks for this good op.

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