So when is saying F Word okay on DU?

[sheshe2]

***************************AFRICAN AMERICAN GROUP***********************************


There seems to be a time and a place when some things are acceptable and some are not. Saying it to and about this President ( our AA President is a Okay!) KnR to the top of the page. Disrespect for our African American President is at an all time high. It is lauded and applauded and recommended to the top of the page. There is a new one tonight! There is never a hide by a jury for diminishing this man, did I just fall through the rabbit hole here? Or just slip into Discussionist.

So why when I made a post about Race in America, and yes, I said

" Fuck you America, you break our hearts. YOU HAVE TO WATCH THIS!" Ferguson: Race and Justice in the U.S. that related to an excellent film one that was heartbreaking realities of today in black America. That was hidden.

Let me sum it up here:

It is acceptable to say it to our AA President, then dismiss and ridicule him. Not acceptable to point out to America how messed up we are as a country where it has become an everyday occurrence, actually every 28 minutes a PoC is killed.

[DonCoquixote]

1. EXACTLY

The Hypocrisy is thick.

[Xipe Totec]

2. Only when California Peggy drops the 'F' Bomb. nt

[Warpy]

3. Stupid hide, I'll agree

Some prissy person who doesn't know what a Jeremiad is got lucky with a jury.

Sometimes it works that way.

[sheshe2]

29. Actually. It was 4 prissy people that did not have the balls to say why.

Three that voted to leave left explanations. For this....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/118710504

Thanks Warpy. You know, I would understand a deserved hide, but this? Lol. I got one for saying someone haz a sad. And asking why someone was fundraising here. One other I can't remember. Oh wait I do but i am not mentioning it. That person loves to alert on me. Not many and TBH bogus.

Happy New Year Warpy

[Number23]

4. She, just look at this place and consider the source. The person who wrote the "shut the fuck up"

bit is accused in every single thread of being a zombie. A previously banned member. And he is now sitting atop GD with over a hundred recs. Edit: But even that is saying something because back in the day, saying "shut the fuck up" to the Democratic first black president of the USA would have gotten you AT LEAST 250 recs here.

Another poster with a growing fan club caused by his ignorant and CONTINUED insistence that Obama alone has the power to raise the minimum wage has only been on DU for two months and is already on a forced time out because of a blaring transparency page.

Seriously... CONSIDER THE SOURCE. This place ain't what it used to be and with examples like this it NEVER WILL BE AGAIN. Just embrace the idiocy because Lord knows it looks as though a lot of other folks have (even though most of that appears to be unintentionally).

[sheshe2]

9. Lol~so it's getting better 100 rec's instead of 250 for bashing that nasty right of right...

black President we have. Progress.

Oh my and mr minimum wage is on vacation, so sad. !@#$%^&*IUY^%$#@ damn Obama he has done nothing, nothing I say. He needs to grow a spine. We need to hold his feet to the fire. He told us so!

spine~





Thanks for the pep talk Number 23

[Cha]

10. Wow, you just made my hour, 23!

I knew exactly who you were talking about and just went there.. There is a goddess!

"Embrace the idiocy"! lol

Happy New Yeah, Number23!

[freshwest]

21. And can't let one thread celebrate PBO without a rush of threads saying we'll say whatever we want!!

If that isn't a big FU, I don't know what is. Someone posted the Native American Ethical Code today. The link is below.

I'll be reducing my contribution as soon as I can figure out how, as I am NOT a masochist. Who needs this circular puke?

On a better note:

Native American Code of Ethics

http://www.nativevillage.org/Inspiration-/native_american_code_of_ethics__.htm

to packman:

http://sync.democraticunderground.com/10026032551#op

There is none of that at play at DU now. It's low level, very repetitious negativity. If one good thing happens, or some complaint is resolved in PBO's favor, it simply regroups to hack on about older complaints.

The abusive language is OTT, like listening to load of drunks before a bar closes down. It sounds just like Rush to me. Why should I contribute to that when I won't in real life?

Anyway, Happy New Year, AA!

[Hekate]

33. I've reduced my contribution to five bucks just before a national election....

....so I can log onto all parts of DU in case something wonderful is going on. Unfortunately, the last two times I did this, nothing wonderful was going on at DU. I'm sure you know exactly what I mean by that.

So at the moment I'm dodging ads. And you know what? I don't give a damn.

Write to Ask the Admins or to the link on the contributions page to ask how to get out of monthly payments, if that's what you're doing. They'll oblige.

[freshwest]

42. Thanks, I did that, but have been too busy to get it done. Need to get it done. As far as ads go, I

eliminated them before I became a star member with Firefox's ad block add on. It can also stop videos from auto playing. For a while I was being assaulted with 'earworm' music videos and didn't want to hear them again. Some thought that was funny, but it got old for me.

You can set it up to eliminate all ads from all websites which makes pages load faster. And then release as needed. IDK what other browsers have in the way of ad block, but the one at Firefox is free.

And I know what you mean, at times DU's the most unhappy place on the net. It's always been trolled a lot, but this is now too far. DU will become whatever works for those who own and operate it.

I don't think they ever expected it to be this way and are at a loss for what to do. They got sick of being pulled into every fight between members on DU2 and I can see why they're unwillling to go back. It must have been wearing on them and they finally had it 'up to here' at some point.

[rbrnmw]

5. it's disgusting

you can call the POTUS a pos used car salesman tell him to stfu on DU with no repercussions. If you tell the racists F*ck you, you get a hide.

that is f*cked up and wrong

[sheshe2]

13. What's at the bottom~

Discussionist!!!!

[rbrnmw]

62. yep nt

[roody]

6. When I say it.

[BlueJazz]

7. As far as I'm concerned, any time you want to. I don't alert. We need to give people..

...a wider berth of feelings and width of feelings on DU. Again, as far as I'm concerned.

I look at a post and sometimes think "Aw...maybe their girlfriend just dumped them or they're having a bad day"

[NYC_SKP]

8. If you're a "popular blogger" with a following here, anything goes.

You can threaten the life of another member and write them threatening PMs, be banned, then be allowed to return.

And you can then go on to compare the president to a used car salesman due to your own miscomprehension of how the ACA works, and your post will get hundreds of recs.

That's DU and it's selective enforcement and way of being inclusive and tolerant.

It really sucks.

[freshwest]

22. Unfortunately. Of course there is the fan club that insists on deifying it and none may say nay.

If that's not a cult, there is no such things as a cult.

[sheshe2]

24. ...

[kwassa]

11. Fuck if I know.

[sheshe2]

14. I love you kwassa!

[Cha]

12. It's a crap shoot, she. I learned sometimes it's not alright to call out Putin with the "F" word

and, that he's a homophobic dictator or you'll get a hide. the putin pushers are very sensitive about that.

The ugly disrespect is unleashed.. they think they're clever getting by getting away with calling the President "a pos used car salesman" again.. but, all it does it show they have nothing to offer but ODS.

I have no idea why someone was on their high punctilious horse when they alerted on your OP.. calling out America for ugly vicious racism. There no doubt is rampant racism.. no need to try and cover that up.

[kwassa]

15. I truly believe that there are paid RT shills here on DU.

That is my conspiracy theory about this place.

[Cha]

16. I have no idea.. but, I sincerely wish they

could live where they love it so much.

[kwassa]

17. Maybe they do live there, but have Internet access.

How is that for a conspiracy?

[Cha]

18. Didn't think about that!

[freshwest]

25. Buzzfeed outted their operation in Russia. Yes, they have net access and are paid by the post.

[kwassa]

26. and I think they are represented on DU.

[Hekate]

48. And I think you are right. Also, I think they're not the only ones.

[sheshe2]

19. I know Cha!

It's a crap shoot for who is called to jury and I think there should be changes. Newbies should be here for let's say 6 months with a certain amount of posts under there belt before they are allowed to vote.

Not right the trolls should be trolling.

[Cha]

20. Indeed.. dumb that trolls can be jurors.

[sheshe2]

23. It is dumb Cha! Trolls as jurors on DU,

Hope Skinner will think about this.

FYI. I am calling in sick tomorrow. To hell with sales. I feel miserable.

[Cha]

27. Yeah, when you feel that bad it's hard to bounce back so soon.

We're having a raging storm here.. wind and hard rain coming from all kinds of directions.. I keep having to go outside because my orchids are blowing over. I think I've got them stable but noooo!

I did fix a big pot of veggie soup and brown rice and am eating it now.. it's so nice and hot! wish I could give you some.

[sheshe2]

30. Even though I did not feel like it I bought stuff to make soup the other day.

Quick recipe, creamy broccoli soup without the cream. I needed something hot. I have a huge pot.

Stay dry my dear, Cha.
Hugs She

[Cha]

36. Great you made the soup! Hot is good.. imagine having to have hot soup in Hawaii but

it's Necessary!

You stay warm..


@DavidNakamura: This happened today over the Kailua neighborhood where the Obamas are staying on vacation

http://theobamadiary.com/2015/01/02/chat-on-64/

[sheshe2]

40. Rainbow over the Obamas.

Love it.

I am not religious, yet we are blessed.

Cha

[Cha]

41. It's a sign.. the President cares about people.. that's who he is. I wish him and his family

the best of health and good luck. That will be good for the Planet too.

she~

[Hekate]

35. Heehee; I called Putin a little bastard & old KGB man awhile back and was chastised ...

...most seriously for that. I told the RT fan that I stood by my assessment of Putin, as he has taken the Crimea and apparently longs for the old Cold War days. I don't think I was alerted on for that, however.

[Cha]

39. Good, 'cause he is.. and all the RT propaganda isn't going to change that.

Happy New Year, Hekate!


@DavidNakamura: This happened today over the Kailua neighborhood where the Obamas are staying on vacation

http://theobamadiary.com/2015/01/02/chat-on-64/

[Hekate]

43. Ah, Kailua, the town I grew up in. What a beautiful rainbow.

[Cha]

44. I knew you would know it.. not that you grew up there! Wonderful for you, Hekate!

[Hekate]

46. It was small then; no fancy compounds on the beach

We lived on Oneawa Street in a really small house, about 700 sf, but that was about the standard for our neighborhood. I used to babysit all the keikis, starting from when I was 12. When I was 16 I worked at the Dole Pineapple Cannery one summer; "You still here, haole girl?" >sigh< Sad to say I wasn't that good at the cannery, though when I left at the end of the summer I was told I could come back next year.

Used to hike up Lanikai Hill with my boyfriend; wonder if the old WW II pillbox is still there?

Beautiful place, the Windward side.

[Cha]

47. Sounds grand in its beautiful Island simplicity. My friend Joe on Kauai use to work in the

Pineapple factory too.. back in the day. He talks about how paradisiacal is was back then before giant influx!

[Hekate]

49. They turned the old Cannery in Honolulu into a bunch of boutiques!

I was back there in 1990 and could not believe it. Wandered around, had lunch, sent flowers to my mom and MIL, and bought a really nice string of cultured pearls.

Felt strange.

OTOH, the old stadium that had been within earshot of my adult apartment on Date Street in Honolulu had been turned into a public park, which was just the outcome I had lobbied for with a group of other activists. It was going to be torn down and a new stadium built elsewhere, and of course condo and business developers had their eye on the land. When I moved away I hadn't known we would win, and we did. That felt very good indeed.

I may go back next year for my high school reunion. We'll see.....

[Cha]

50. I hope you can go back! Mahalo for the history on what became of the Pineapple Factory on

Oahu, Hekate~

Oh, I bet it felt good for that victory with the Public Park being the outcome!

[Hekate]

28. When Will Pitt does it

Srsly

[sheshe2]

34. Yes that is true and only. Only!

If it is directed at our POS President. Attack black men, especially this President. You go to the top of the page. then come back and do an encore and you get


Bravo Bravo Bravo



I love you hekate.

[Hekate]

38. Loveya back. Can I hang out here?

Honest to gods, after following all those links the other night from Tobin's thread, I had to ask myself if I wanted to be associated with a board that allows the kind of repeated racist posts that were on display. Shook me up.

[sheshe2]

45. It's my home away from home.

I started coming here a while ago. In the beginning I asked if it was okay to post, one member told me yes. There is no problem with you responding here. It is like the BOG in a way, yet so much more enlightening in so many ways. So much history. So many stories. Actually, for what I know of you Hekate and the support you have given me, I believe you would be welcome here.

As a white person, I see one more ally. We do this together or we don't do it at all.

[brush]

56. What is the BOG? For my own information. nt

[Hekate]

63. Barack Obama Group.

We get trash-talked for not trash-talking the President. What can I say?

[ucrdem]

61. Nays have it

Automated Message
AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service
Mail Message
On Sat Jan 3, 2015, 09:44 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

When Will Pitt does it
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1187&pid=11481

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Calling out a poster from the safety of a protected group.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sat Jan 3, 2015, 09:51 AM, and the Jury voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Low and untrue. Lot's of DU'ers say fuck.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Call out.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: In the first place, I disagree that this is a callout. Secondly, for whatever it's worth, this thread seems off-topic and rather meta-like for a Group so I don't know how much protection Will needs or gets here even if it were an attack.
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: What a bunch of fucking trolls. No guts to say it where people can respond so they hide in their little hole.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Nay.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

Yay!

[Hekate]

64. Good gravy

I shall have to employ certain euphemisms in the future. Nothing too dark and consequential. Maybe Our Old Buddy will do. "Old" as in I've known him at DU since he was a pup, and really did used to like him. Can't read him any more.

>smh<

[Number23]

67. I would alert on those jury results. Juror #6 has issues.

[Kath1]

31. Agree with you 100%.

This country is still very racist and sexist. The abuse heaped on President obama is sickening.

I've been using the F word a lot lately, espceially when it comes to racist killer police and the right wing commentators who defend them.

I'm 56 and white, but I agree TOTALLY with your comments. We are all in this together.

[sheshe2]

37. I'm 62 and white.

For racism...

Yes I got my hide for this

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025965635

You may have missed it. the point of my op.

Sorry should have posted the link at the top.

Lov ya Kath.

[Kath1]

59. Thanks, she.

I'll be sure to find it and watch even though I know it will be very depressing.

Love you, sister.

[Major Hogwash]

66. I saw that, and it is obvious to me the jury was filled with faux poutrage.

How they took it out of context . . is beyond me.
Yet, if one of the DU members who are famous for acting so liberal here would have said it, that post would not have been hidden.
But, like Skinner says, ya takes your chances when you post here.
I have known that for a long time now.

But, that is the way things are here.
I don't expect them to change.
They can only get worse from here on out.
I have little hope it will get better.

[Kalidurga]

32. I do not know

If I knew that I would be dropping the F bomb a lot more frequently.

[SamKnause]

51. Any fucking time that I feel

like using it in my posts.

Are you in favor of banning the word fuck from this website ???

[sheshe2]

52. Ummmm noooo.

I got a hide for it for posting this.

Follow the link.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/118710504

[SamKnause]

53. The jury decisions leave much to be desired.

I would never hide a post because of the word fuck.

It should not have happened to you !

That was an excellent video !!!!!!

Sorry for the confusion.

[sheshe2]

54. Thank you Sam.

FYI. That was the clip I watched it all it was poignant. Heartbreaking and the good old boys and girls hide it here with out comment. I find that interesting. Sure wish I knew why it was so offensive and needed to be hidden on a democratic board. I guess talking about race in America a subject some do not wish to talk about. Yet a hide on DU. Now I am getting scared.

[brush]

57. I sometimes use the F word like this . . .

F_ck, or f_cking.

I know it's a compromise and it loses it's raw impact but it's yet to be hidden.

[Shrike47]

55. I'm in the 'any fucking time you want' crowd. The word itself is not, in my opinion, hide worthy.

[JustAnotherGen]

58. Keeping my crass signature line . . .

Doubling down.

[sheshe2]

65. ...

Happy New Year Jag~

[Feral Child]

60. Apparently only when the poster is white

and not calling attention to racism.

[progressiveinaction]

68. Where

are you getting the statistic that "every 28 minutes a PoC is killed"?

[ismnotwasm]

69. It's a very valid and well- used part of MY vocabulary

And I think it's use directed toward a successful Democratic president is inappropriate at BEST.
Those examples are chilling.