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Where's the legislation? (Original Post) JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 OP
"known for over two years" More like "known for over 30 years" Number23 Sep 2015 #1
And all that time JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #2
Thus why BLM must make very loud noise, everywhere they can...this is lip service only randys1 Sep 2015 #3
She and Bernie are Working on it Right Now lib87 Sep 2015 #4
Let's not simply call out Senators Warren and Sanders Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #5
No One Wants to Rock That Comfortable Boat lib87 Sep 2015 #6
and to be as fair as I can be Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #8
True! I Hope it Spreads lib87 Sep 2015 #9
Where has Corey been silent? JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #12
My bad! Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #13
It's fine JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #14
Would those be the same Corporate Overlords Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #21
But it's a TRICK ... a trick, I tell you. ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #23
I've been angry with Corey Booker every since he was on Meet the Press. Stellar Sep 2015 #17
In fairness Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #20
When David Corn released Romney's "47%" comment into the wild BumRushDaShow Sep 2015 #22
Something about Booker I dont like. randys1 Sep 2015 #24
What was that infamous DU refrain? Something about "good speeches but..."? BumRushDaShow Sep 2015 #7
Purdy words, etc... Bobbie Jo Sep 2015 #19
Hey, any staffers reading here: lovemydog Sep 2015 #10
Nice speech gwheezie Sep 2015 #11
Good question. leftofcool Sep 2015 #15
Excellent point!!! onpatrol98 Sep 2015 #16
On those scorecards that the NAACP do Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #18
I've said before ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #25
You're back!!!! gollygee Sep 2015 #27
Shh ... Don't tell no one ... I'm just out on parole! n/t 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #30
I can at least see why you still think Bernie 'can't get elected' in the GE, that's the conventional Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #28
Not to pick a fight but ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #31
Dave Marsh is the most liberal human being I have ever heard on the radio or read. randys1 Sep 2015 #33
Good to see you back. greatauntoftriplets Sep 2015 #29
Yay, you're here!! Starry Messenger Sep 2015 #32
Very good point!! n/t gollygee Sep 2015 #26

randys1

(16,286 posts)
3. Thus why BLM must make very loud noise, everywhere they can...this is lip service only
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 07:29 PM
Sep 2015

so far.

Action will come only if BLM and others keep demanding it.

Chitown Kev

(2,197 posts)
5. Let's not simply call out Senators Warren and Sanders
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 07:35 PM
Sep 2015

Senator Booker?

The CBC?

Yes, we know that the GOP runs shit and won't do anything...why didn't Maxine Waters whisper that in the ear of the new grandfather of a biracial child as she told him, "I'm proud of you?"

lib87

(535 posts)
6. No One Wants to Rock That Comfortable Boat
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 07:43 PM
Sep 2015

Talk and half smiles/grimaces have sufficed this long. No need to try anything different. That's why I am hoping BLM can continue to make progress without turning to many politicians who don't care.


I'm cynical about it all at this point.

Chitown Kev

(2,197 posts)
8. and to be as fair as I can be
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 08:48 PM
Sep 2015

timely and effective political rhetoric is important...but it's only a beginning...

lib87

(535 posts)
9. True! I Hope it Spreads
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 09:02 PM
Sep 2015

And more democrats in office start meaningful discussions with fellow politicians that turn into bills.

JustAnotherGen

(31,823 posts)
14. It's fine
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 05:14 AM
Sep 2015



Note the date - June 2nd.

NRN was 7/16 - 7/19.

Shhhhh - don't tell the rest of DU - but sometimes it takes a couple of Third Way Slaves To The Corporate Overlords to get things done (Booker and Boxer).

Chitown Kev

(2,197 posts)
21. Would those be the same Corporate Overlords
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 01:07 PM
Sep 2015

who, in considerable part, paved the way for much of gay rights?

Yes, Corps do the right thing when the bottom line ($$$$$$$) is involved but they do it!...and on gay rights, they were actually earlier to the game than people give them credit before.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
23. But it's a TRICK ... a trick, I tell you. ...
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 02:26 PM
Sep 2015

Once you get used to having ... well ... a job, and feeling a measure of security that you can keep it, even if you ARE gay ... you know what's going to happen. Right?

Neither do I ... but it'll be bad because "the oligarchs!!!"

Stellar

(5,644 posts)
17. I've been angry with Corey Booker every since he was on Meet the Press.
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 11:10 AM
Sep 2015

The Obama campaign was trying to tie Bain capital around Mitt Romney's neck and Corey had a conniption, and he's been nauseating to me ever since.



Polls for Cory in July, 2015.
N.J.com

WASHINGTON — A plurality of New Jersey voters no longer approve of the job U.S. Sen. Robert Menendez is doing in office, and are showing greater dissatisfaction with fellow Democratic U.S. Sen. Cory Booker, according to a poll released Tuesday.

The Monmouth University poll found 38 percent of the state's voters both approved and disapproved of the job being done by Menendez, who was indicted April 1 on federal corruption charges. That was the first time New Jersey's senior senator was not in positive territory.

Chitown Kev

(2,197 posts)
20. In fairness
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 12:58 PM
Sep 2015

In hindsight, obviously that was a good strategy but one thing that Obama didn't do enough for me in the 2012 campaign was tie Romney to Massachusetts...he didn't take the extra step and...thing is, it wasn't even necessary.

I still feel that Obama had one hand tied behind his back in 2012 and still beat Romney.

BumRushDaShow

(128,962 posts)
22. When David Corn released Romney's "47%" comment into the wild
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 01:41 PM
Sep 2015

there was nothing further that Obama needed to do. That sealed it. It became almost as ubiquitous as the "1%" references.

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
11. Nice speech
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 02:10 AM
Sep 2015

I was following several twitter feed about the speech, several people have brought up this point. This speech isn't brave. It's stating what we know. Where is the legislation?

onpatrol98

(1,989 posts)
16. Excellent point!!!
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 07:02 AM
Sep 2015

But, I have to admit, it's not surprising. I'm going to bet all of the people put their names on things that matter to them...well, at least the ones that actually go to Washington to work. That's why you have to look at their legislative lives. At least Warren has the benefit of just getting to Washington. Bernie has been there almost as long as I've been alive. Heck, he may have been there as long as I've been alive. I have to use what I know as a working adult. You hit your stride on the job after a while. You know the ends and outs of the job. Your productivity improves. Your personal performance has a peak at some point. He's been in the legislature long enough that I should be able to look at the bills he's sponsored and me think...yep, that's exactly what I would want. Look, Hillary ain't much better. She just wasn't there as long. They talk a good game. But, there isn't much THERE there. How would they be different as President I don't know. They know we're afraid of a republican in the White House...so, we are just stuck. The bern I'm feeling is heartburn.

Chitown Kev

(2,197 posts)
18. On those scorecards that the NAACP do
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 11:12 AM
Sep 2015

Last edited Tue Sep 29, 2015, 12:54 PM - Edit history (1)

many of them do list the sponsors of those bills...when the NAACP doesn't provide that information, it is otherwise easy to look up.

Over an ~20 year period I saw Sanders name on one amendment that the NAACP had in their scorecard, that's it.

http://www.naacp.org/pages/report-cards

They were quite easy to find...

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
25. I've said before ...
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 02:44 PM
Sep 2015

if HRC is elected, we (PoC) will get more of the same. I don't like that; but, in my estimation, she (or O'Malley or Biden) has 1) a shot at winning the G/E, i.e., will/would be in the position to actually enact her (their) tepid racial cures, her (their) economic plans and protect the SCOTUS; and 2), she has (they all have) demonstrated an ability to work with others, so should she (they) win the Presidency, they will/would be more likely to actually get something done ... again, in my estimation, Bernie has demonstrated neither of these traits.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
28. I can at least see why you still think Bernie 'can't get elected' in the GE, that's the conventional
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 02:52 PM
Sep 2015

wisdom.

But, to grab a block of text from his 'about' page,

Bernie has been called a “practical and successful legislator” and he was dubbed the “amendment king” in the House of Representatives for passing more amendments than any other member of Congress. As chairman of the Senate Committee on Veterans’ Affairs, Bernie worked across the aisle to “bridge Washington’s toxic partisan divide and cut one of the most significant deals in years.”


Not to mention his fantastic addition to the ACA to provide support for rural clinics.

I don't understand how you can think he hasn't demonstrated any ability to 'work with others'. It's all he's done for decades, certainly far more demonstrably than the claim can be made for Clinton, who is HATED on the right. How you think she'll get anything done is beyond me.
 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
31. Not to pick a fight but ...
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 04:49 PM
Sep 2015
Bernie has been called a “practical and successful legislator” and he was dubbed the “amendment king” in the House of Representatives for passing more amendments than any other member of Congress.


By whom ... certainly not anyone willing to endorse him. In fact, I am hearing the exact opposite from folks that have, either worked directly with him, or know someone that has worked with him.

How you think she'll get anything done is beyond me.


Because she has worked with world leaders and managed to move the diplomatic ball, without pissing off the world.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
33. Dave Marsh is the most liberal human being I have ever heard on the radio or read.
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 06:23 PM
Sep 2015

He is a famous Rolling Stone music critic and expert in all things music.

For a long time he had a show on XM on Sundays called "Live from the Land of Hopes and Dreams" and he would talk about his days at SNCC, for instance, as well as other things liberal as in politics.

White guy, BTW.

He didnt just know of Bernie, he knew Bernie.

And he criticized the hell out of him for being a do nothing senator as in actually getting meaningful legislation through.

I was always surprised by this criticism of one very liberal person by another very liberal person.

Dave would go on and on about how all Bernie did was talk instead of actually effecting change.

I dont know how true or accurate his criticism is, but I always thought it was odd, but now I see it in a different light.

I am still a supporter of Bernie because I think his message is so badly needed, but I think criticism is appropriate.

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