AFAM Group - About last night & That Reverse Racism – The Wiz

[JustAnotherGen]

People Think 'The Wiz Live!' is Racist. Twitter Says, 'Huh?'
https://www.colorlines.com/articles/people-think-wiz-live-racist-twitter-says-huh

Actual tweet: "I just learned there is a Black version of 'The Wizard of Oz' called 'The Wiz.' How is this not racist?"
Evan (@MJTM) November 23, 2015

Can you imagine the outrage if a show advertised an "All White Cast"?! But #TheWizLive is getting praised for having an "All Black Cast"...— Melly (@4princessmel) November 27, 2015

You can go to the article for the screen shots of the tweets without having to go to the twitter but suffice to say - the (dare I post it) white privilege oozing out of the pores of some of these total tool dipshits tweeting this nonsense is astounding.


Especially the 'tit for tat' ones who are so ignorant to the entire dominant culture that they have never even heard of the Wizard of Oz.



In the meantime . . . it was a hit! I'm glad to have been able to contribute to the viewer numbers.

The Wiz Live’ Ratings Strong: NBC Musical Draws More Than 11 Million Viewers
http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/the-wiz-live-ratings-nbc-musical-1201653402/

Two years after NBC stunned the industry with boffo ratings for its live presentation of “The Sound of Music,” the network was back at it Thursday night with “The Wiz Live,” which drew impressive numbers of its own. The event also set a Nielsen Twitter record as most social live special program in the more than four years of tracking such numbers

[gollygee]

1. the all white version was made in 1938

We should compare how many movies have all black vs all white casts. Rofl

[SusanCalvin]

22. .

[randys1]

2. It was on TV? I thought this was a stage play, but

last night, i see

I can on demand it I assume

I remember it as a kid, for sure.

I might get the vapors if I see a Black tinman, though

[tishaLA]

3. The Tin Man was Ne Yo and he was really good

[kwassa]

5. Ne Yo was outstanding. A show stealer.

Great singing, great dancing.

I was googling all the players while watching. David Alan Grier is now 60! and he was very strong in voice and performance. The younger ones were all great, like Elijah Kelley as the Scarecrow, Shanice Williams as Dorothy.

Costumes and dance routines were phenomenal.

[JustAnotherGen]

12. Shanice Williams

Completely unknown Jersey Girl - beat out hundreds for her first paid job.

[qwlauren35]

25. Yes!

The costumes were absolutely wonderful.

[DonCoquixote]

4. only in America

can you put together a musical featuring people who have all gone Platinum and people use race to somehow make it less legitimate. As a said in an earlier rant, people had NO problem with Carrie "American Idol winner" Underwood being given the role Julie Andrews made famous in the Sound of Music. That would have deserved thrown vegetables because you had a country music newcomer being given one of the great musical roles ever, but that musical purely had a white cast, so those who want to determine what whiteness is picked a country singer that used TV to leapfrog to stardom over those who spent years playing on circuits. So of course, when the Wiz comes along, loaded with artists that have sold literal boatloads of records, have selves full of grammys, sold millions of concert tickets over the past decade, it is deemed inferior to the one where they tried to make an American Idol the replacement for Julie Andrews, Bloody Julie Andrews!

[kwassa]

6. Some of those tweets reveal the depths of ignorance of the tweeters.

They never heard of the original "The Wiz" from the '70s, or seen the movie with Michael Jackson, and Diana Ross, which has played endlessly on TV.

Opinions are like *ssholes, everyone has one ...

[lovemydog]

7. Glad to see it was a big success.

Queen Latifah as The Wiz, Shanice Williams as Dorothy, Elijah Kelley as Scarecrow, David Alan Grier as Lion, and Ne-Yo as Tin-Man in "The Wiz Live."

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/04/entertainment/the-wiz-live-feat/index.html

[Number23]

10. Shanice Williams??!!!

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Oh my Lord, where did they dig that child up?? I need to see this play now!!!

[MADem]

28. She got in line with everyone else. They showed her audition on TV.

They knew pretty much immediately that she was The One.

This was her first Big Break--like I said downthread, a Star is Born! We'll be seeing more of her--she was grace under pressure, courage under fire, and absolutely SUPERB in the role. She nailed it!

[Number23]

44. That is so damn fabulous! Not only was Shanice cute as an absolute bug in the 90s

she could very clearly SANG too. I wished she'd had more songs.

I don't know why but I am tickled pink that she's back in the public eye and to rave reviews too (reading your comments). This whole thread has made my day. I don't know how I'm going to watch this show but I will have to find a way.

[MADem]

46. See if you can't proxy your way across the pond....

Try using something like HOLA to put yourself in USA "virtually" and then see if you can find a link that works.

https://hola.org/

[Kind of Blue]

40. Such a cute song!

Nice to remember and see people completely forgotten.

[Coolest Ranger]

8. Have they ever watched the origional version?

I feel like I'm going to be sick now

[Number23]

9. The Wiz is so damn old it came out when Michael Jackson was still black and these folks STILL

haven't heard of it???

Want to point out that #TheWizLive has changed cast to all black actors yet there's no outrage from the whites. #BlackLivesMatter Just sayin

— Jeff Kelso (@boottapper) December 1, 2015

Sweet Lord in Heaven... I'm sure that "Jeff" will make good and damn sure that white outrage will be forthcoming any second now.

Glad to hear the show is a hit! There seem to be alot of really interesting things being done on Broadway.

[randys1]

15. The Wiz is so damn old it came out when Michael Jackson was still black LOL

[SusanCalvin]

23. Funny, but also sad, to me.

I look at that adorable child and at what he did to himself for reasons I just cannot fathom (not being him and not having any experiences that help me relate to the need to make such changes to one's appearance) and I want to weep.

[Kind of Blue]

39. You are toooo funny!

"The Wiz is so damn old it came out when Michael Jackson was still black."

[Number23]

11. Wait, I'm confused! Is it a play or a tv show? Is it on Broadway??

Seeing Shanice Damn Williams after all these years -- I can't understand a damn thing right now!

[JustAnotherGen]

13. It was live on NBC last night

Stage play - they had Circe Du Soleil do some of the stage scenery. It was very very well done!

[lovemydog]

14. It was an NBC live broadcast of a play!

I think you can watch it again here N23!

http://www.nbc.com/the-wiz-live

[Number23]

18. "Sorry. This video is not available from your location."

ARRRRRGGH!

[lovemydog]

19. aaaaarrrggghhh

Try googling The Wiz Live or NBC The Wiz or View The Wiz Now or How the Fuck Can I watch the Wiz from Wherever the Hell I Am Right Now.

[Number23]

45. How the Fuck Can I watch the Wiz from Wherever the Hell I Am Right Now.

If that's not a web site already, it damn sure will be soon!!

[lovemydog]

47. heh heh

http://bfy.tw/38h7

[lovemydog]

21. You may be able to see it

by asking someone nearby you how to obtain it through a file sharing site. They are often called 'peer to peer' sites. It's best to have an individual in person show you which site might work best for you, and how to view it on whatever device you're using. Good luck!

[lovemydog]

17. Hey everyone. You can watch it here:

http://www.nbc.com/the-wiz-live

or here:

http://www.nbc.com/the-wiz-live/video/the-wiz-live/2943548

It might take a while for the stream to load. Or it may require DirectTV. Not sure.

Or try an NBC app on your streaming device. I'd bet NBC is showing on different cable channels too. Try exploring the NBC web site for ways to watch it.

Hope something works for you!

[ismnotwasm]

20. I'll make a point of watching it

When I can.

I'm not on Twitter much--been meaning to change that--but that commentary is infuriating. I've been known to let go and cut loose now and again on social media. I'd like to let go all over that ignorant crap.

[SusanCalvin]

24. I missed it live!? Argh!

Obviously I desperately need to see it, even if I have to watch it on the computer.

[MADem]

27. If you have "ON DEMAND" they still have it up. nt

[SusanCalvin]

30. Thanks.

There's just something about seeing it as it really happens, you know?

I thought it was "just" a special, didn't register that it was live, which by definition only happens once. And I missed it. PHOOEY!!!!!!

[MADem]

36. I get what you're saying.

It's like knowing your team won while watching the tape delay--you might not know the score or even what plays were made, but the suspense of "Anything Could Happen" is gone.

It's still really good, though--I plan on watching the parts where I nodded off at the weekend!

[yeoman6987]

32. It was filled with so many commercials. At least 45 minutes worth

But it was good between them.

[Digital Puppy]

33. Probably done on purpose to give the actors and crew a break... n/t

[JustAnotherGen]

37. Costume changes I think

Some ofthe players/extras in different scenes were the same people.

And how about those Emerald City "Club Kids". They were so graceful.

[MADem]

26. You know that cousin of George Bush, "Billy" who does the entertainment show on TV?

I have to give it to him--he was Mocking The SHIT out of that tweet! He gave that idiot the "pro tip" that there is a "white version" of the story called "The Wizard of Oz" that came first and pointed out that, hey, the DOG in The Wiz was white so Get Over It!!!!

I watched a good chunk of it but I had a long day and dozed. I will say that the could have sub-titled it "A Star is Born" because Shanice Williams BROUGHT it. She was just amazing.

[SusanCalvin]

29. Billy Bush? I think I'm in love.

I know I could Google it, but might you let me be lazy and give me a link?

[MADem]

31. I was watching it live on TV -- never would have seen his show except they

cancelled JEOPARDY for a football analysis show so I flipped the channel!! I think the show is called "Access Hollywood." Here is their web (print) coverage, but it doesn't have BB's comments:

http://www.accesshollywood.com/articles/wiz-live-stars-tweet-their-reaction-nbcs-latest-musical/


You can see The Wiz "pregame show" clips here--amazing costumes:

http://www.accesshollywood.com/videos/the-wiz-live-stars-put-game-faces-on/

I notice their webpage is a day behind, maybe someone will put up the clip later....

[MADem]

43. Found it (they just slapped it up).....

http://www.accesshollywood.com/videos/the-wiz-soars/

He starts snarking at about 33 seconds in....

[SusanCalvin]

50. Thank you!

That's some good snark. I know NOTHING about him except the vid you so kindly linked, but he seems nicer and more intelligent than the general run of Bushes.

[JI7]

35. he is probably similar to the Jenna and Barbara and Meghan Mccain

i think they are better outside of elected office. hopefully jeb fails and his son doesn't get much further than he has right now. and that's the end of the Bush family in politics .

[Kalidurga]

34. People like that are just looking for reasons to complain

Likely their income is three times higher than the average POC yet they don't complain about that now do they?

[Kind of Blue]

38. Wow! They went right past sublime and straight to ridiculous!

How is this even possible?????

I saw the Broadway stage play on a high school trip. It was awesome, seemingly thousands of terribly excited students all over the place. Our class had fantastic seats because our fine arts teacher was on it! I remember the awesome, awesome poster with the design/silhouette of a lady I'd never seen anything quite like before or since. I remember watching the commercials and counting the days. Caught a glimpse of Geofrey Holder backstage and we squealed! We thought it was Mr. Holder because we screamed at every person backstage we could see

And Stephanie Mills, honies! Stephanie Mills! Mabel King singing No Bad News. I've got the chills remembering that fine moment. Ease on Down the Road! Home!!! Believe!!! Gawd, Yes! Just about every song a hit on the radio.

Thanks, JAG, for posting! Thanks, y'all for all the information on how to watch! I feel a lovely weekend is here

On edit, it couldn't have been Ms. King as Evillene on Broadway because I remember What's Happening was still on TV that year.

[JustAnotherGen]

42. My husband thinks it might have been her

My MIL tied her three older kids to her and headed down from The Bronx to take them to see it. When they lived in the US in the early 70's to early 80's they really wanted their kids to get the full American experience. My husband made her take him two more times he loved it so much.

Anyways - he thinks you are right - the women from What's Happening but he liked Thursdays poppies so much better. *smdh*

[Kind of Blue]

51. Aww...what an aware mom!

Or as young people say nowadays, woke

Okay, there's a good chance it was Ms. King - thanks! I know for sure that she was in the movie.

JAG, what are Thursday's poppies?

[JustAnotherGen]

54. The Poppies in the Musical

He's like - "Shit just got real. Is this a family show or a burlesque-aaah!"

He actually leaned forward when those girls came on. *smdh*

[Kind of Blue]

55. Got it!

Ha! Still haven't seen it yet and now I'm really looking forward to seeing what your husband is talking about!

[Kind of Blue]

41. Went to listen to Ease on Down the Road just for fun

The YouTuber posted the songwriter, Charlie Smalls. Over a year ago, my husband and I were talking about childhood Saturday morning shows, the Monkees in particular. I told him I saw a black guy named Charlie on The Monkees and he didn't believe me. Took a while but found it, of course! It was the last scene in the broadcast with Davy Jones, Some Like It Lukewarm. It was a lesson that I've never forgotten, besides seeing a brother on the show.

I was then shocked to learn that Mr. Smalls died back in '87. He done good and I thought he shouldn't be forgotten.

It starts about 20:42

[lovemydog]

48. That clip from 20:42 on is awesome!

Charlie Smalls. What a cool guy.

When they review rhythms it reminds me of evenings I spent at SOB's (Sounds of Brazil) club in NYC. Those shakers were at every table. Eventually everyone was shaking, forming lines, hugging each other & dancing. Good times!

[Kind of Blue]

52. Good Gracious, I love Brazilian music!

Just a little sync, though I have no idea if the club and the station are connected, I listen to streaming Sounds of Brazil online. On my bucket list: Carnival! Next life, I'm coming back as a samba dancer and win the title of carnival queen Seriously, I will.

On Edit: I thought you might enjoy this
vimeo.com/37157187

[lovemydog]

53. Carnival queen sound great.

Yes, I'd like to visit Brazil some day too. That's a gorgeous video. All those people in Rio going crazy having a wild time with the festivities. I love the floats in the parade!

[rbrnmw]

49. Some folks are so ignorant

they just have be offended about everything, even if they have no clue about what they are offended by if that makes sense.