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Related: About this forumBlack People Not Amused By Politico Suggestion That Obama Reach Out To Whitey
(Whitey is in the article's original title, and is meant to be satirical, just a note to alerters.)
http://thedailybanter.com/2015/12/black-people-not-amused-by-politico-suggestion-that-obama-reach-out-to-whitey/
Theres nothing like a molten hot take to warm up the icy news tundra of Christmas week, and so it is that Politico Magazine has stepped in to fill the void with a column suggesting that President Obama travel the country silently being spat on by racists in order to counter Donald Trumps Starkiller Base of white resentment. Lest you think Im exaggerating, here is a little sample of Issac Baileys well-intentioned but misguided column:
He shouldnt say much at all. He should go primarily to listen, even if it means he has to endure being called nasty names to his face or risk being spat on. Because when you cut through the political rhetoric and fearmongering and empty, overheated debates, thats the one thing people in those communities believe they havent received and want mostto be heard.
Theres a lot more to the piece (which you should read in full before judging) than that, but it doesnt get much better than its headline Why Obama Must Reach Out to Angry Whites.
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There is a widely-held political misunderstanding about White America that fuels this kind of thinking. There are actually three White Americas: the Trump America thats either balls-out racist or feels understandable resentment, the Reagan Democrats who recognize racial injustice but can be persuaded to ignore it in their own self-interest, and liberal White America, who will keep racial justice somewhere on the menu, depending on whatever else theyve got going at the time. Only two of those White Americas are reachable, and Trump America aint one of them
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1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)I particularly liked the:
the Green Mile reference.
Thank you for posting that.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)The President has done all that one man can do anyway. I look at how gray his hair has gone, and wonder why anyone would ask him to try to placate Trump supporters too.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)that's a job for Super Negro! ... Just like it was Mammy's job before that!
Number23
(24,544 posts)Yep and yep.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)and, notice, NONE of white America gives a shit about anything, unless it serves their benefit.
randys1
(16,286 posts)I dont know if this fits here but I watched a docu on NETFLIX that shocked me, stunned me, and made me binge watch all ten episodes the way I did Breaking Bad, it is THAT good.
"Making A Murderer" (IMDB gives it a 9.4 out of 10, it is THAT good)
My son and I are watching it together over the holiday, about a Wisconsin man wrongly accused of murder, him and his then 16 yr old nephew.
Both are borderline mentally disabled given they have IQ's of 72 or something like that.
Both of these guys are probably what we would call the epitome of low classed white folks, there is a phrase used but I wont use it.
Dumb, probably vote republican if they ever vote, etc. You know the type.
Yet I am outraged and I mean OUTRAGED at the injustice they have received.
Watch it if you can...My point about it in relation to this would be white America wont give two shits about these two white guys, it was white America or white WI that put them away with MALICE.
As a progressive white person, I am wondering if what I saw, the outrageous railroading these two received, if it is just SOB for Black people anywhere, probably.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)I think the article that spawned the one in the op originated with Obama subtly suggesting tecently that some white voters miiiiiight just have a little problem in the racism department, which then blew up the Internet and conservative news.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)He must visit DU, on occasion!
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)I suspect the latter applies.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Did you get to watch his episode? It was awesome:
http://www.gq.com/story/every-funny-thing-obama-said-running-wild-with-bear-grylls
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)randys1
(16,286 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)The discussion of the glacier receding was very stark.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,241 posts)classrooms in the country he leads on the global stage? I was fascinated to learn recently that many classrooms in China actually study this POTUS, especially his 2008 road to the White House. Many English learning students chose his acceptance speech for their finals. It just baffles me.
I'm convinced that this President won't be fully appreciated until he's been out of office for a term or two.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)schools that would rip the district apart in controversy, to suggest showing the President's special on Running Wild on nature and the climate. I'm pretty sure that if one of my teachers had shown something with Ford, Carter, or Reagan talking about the great outdoors, no one would have batted an eye.
It made me very sad. Look at how excited Bear was to meet the President. Kids should have more of a chance to see things like this.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)if for no other reason, than to see how, even some Black folks think it is on Black folks to (as a DUer observed in the AA Group) shoulder the burden of racial comity.
Number23
(24,544 posts)and respect!
And the guy who wrote that idiocy is apparently black too. I won't type what I'm thinking. Black Twitter is eating his ass up. Good.
This is why the "oligarchs are the reeeeeeal EEEEEEVIL in this world!!1one" crap falls on the ears of the clueless. The worst racists, the people who have burned black folks out of their homes, kept their children from their schools, denied them jobs have not been the faceless "oligarchs." They have represented the full spectrum of white Americans.
And -- stupidly!!! -- the author of that BS actually touches on that but somehow feels that Obama or anybody other than these hate filled people can change that. Downtrodden white people would have the undying sympathy of every person of color in the world if so many of them, in their privileged resentment, didn't turn on us before they turn on everybody else.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)(He's still got some stuff to work out, even though he's apparently voting differently now. That's why I've never been fond of Politico, they are more conservative but like to troll with it.)
I agree, plus who keeps voting for the "oligarchs?" Plus look at local elections: is Kim Davis an oligarch? No, she's a bigot who taps into supremacist resentment. People voted both for her, and on the strength of feeling sorry for her, voted in a new conservative Gov. of Kentucky. The "people need reassurance" canard falls rather flat when they can easily exercise political power.
And the President is supposed to tour into that hot mess and listen to their "pain." Please.
Number23
(24,544 posts)Color me super, dooper surprised.
Thanks for that link, Starry. Just when it seemed like Sir Issac had regained his senses (to a point), he pens the "Obama should do a Hatemobile tour" mess. Though it does seem that he's got some serious rose colored glasses on when it comes to the GOP:
That GOP no longer exists. During the Obama era, the Republican Party has morphed into something I couldnt feel comfortable being associated with. Conservative opposition to this president has not felt like politics as usual. Ive watched relative moderates like Graham walk in lock-step with an all-out, seemingly monolithic opposition campaign against Obama and his policiesas our country was fighting two ground wars, the economy was in freefall and millions of people went without basic health care. I dont know if that hyper level of opposition in a time of national crisis always had to do with race. I do know it showed the depths to which the party would go to hate Obama.
So basically he's saying "I was willing to overlook the blatant, beyond obvious racism of the 60s and the warmongering idiocy of the Bush years so that I could stay a Republican but these people are so out of control now I can't stay even though Republicans have been the party of hate for decades and their behavior under Obama is nothing compared to how they've acted before, peaking with the 8 years of solid, non-stop hate under Reagan."
Actually those glasses weren't rose colored, they must have been jet-black and made of lead to justify such blindness.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)When Obama reached out to those who hated him, not only did he get hated on by them, but even our beloved left began to dogpile on him as some sort of fake black person (as ifwhites like Ted Rall and Ralph Nader were somehow in a position to judge if Obama could be called black.) IMHO, when the Bernie supporters started yelling at BLM and wondering "why don't you people understand!" a lot of Afro Americans remembered the way many on the LEFT also fired at Obama because he was not THEIR version of what a Black president should be!
While I myself wish Obama was more of a leftist, I would say humbly, at this point, he owes people NOTHING. In terms of practical results, long lasting results, like Gay Marriage, increased access to Medical care, and killing Osama Ben Ladin, he has gotten results that will NOT be washed away by history. Yes, he dragged his feet on some, but after that foot dragging, he got up and walked, which is something a hell of a lot of so called "liberals" never did. He had to deal with attacks on all sides, including especially from the DINOS who often get lauded right here on this page (such as Reid, Pelosi, Landrieu et al )
The sad fact is, even after the whites finally are no longer the numerical majority, many of them will still expect to be the favored children, the ones that get everything they want for xmas and the biggest slice of cake. Want Proof?, see the way many people recoil at immigration, both of Syrians (whose country we helped ruin thanks to our then sec of state declaring "Assad must go" to Mexicans (those whose country we cut in half and took the part that had all the gold.) After we get used up, the best place for many of these fools to call will be the call centers in China, which is, after all, where they allowed the wealth of the nations to be moved to. The true equality will be the the PRC will hate and have contempt for both black and white Americans.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)But what is/are the "PRC"?
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)I use that term to separate them from the many people who consider themselves Chinese, but want NOTHING to do with the crazy crap going on in Beijing.
And yes, I did think of you when I made my comment about Bernie and those who still did not wipe Obama's blood of their hands.
PS: if you want to see the stuff Ted Rall wrote about him, or Nader, you can look, but allow me to put up in red screaming neon "trigger warning!" It is one thing for self described "left" writers to criticize minorities. Heck, if I cannot take criticism, that means I let my jaw get soft. Ted took it one step further and started to lecture people on why Obama was not black.
I may not look "Hispanic" but I sure learned one thing the hard way; to some bigots, any hint of brown is more than enough to spill some red. Obama may not "act" like white people's expectations (or Cornell Wests) of what an African American should be, but we all know that if the Dylan Roofs of the world got a shot at him, they would take it, and many self appointed champions of the left would get right on the internet and pen a variant of "he deserved it."
So to restate my point to some readers, and to those the OP highlights, you slammed Obama because he was being too hard on whites. You slammed because because he was being too soft. You slammed him because he supposedly had no candor, yet every time he tried to be honest, you slammed him. I remember full well when Obama got slammed for this:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/obama-no-surprise-that-ha_b_96188.html
and yet, all these years afterword, is not what Obama said about the people he ticked off so much more true? The same people that got so ticked are the same people that have been defending anyone who shoots a black kid for the better part of a year, with no end in sight. The rest of the world, and especially the non whites in America (we who WILL become the majority) do not hate whites, but we are getting really tired of having to cater to their anger, fear, and yes, to quote to paraphrase Obama, bitterness, especially because extending a hand in solidarity is likely to get a gun drawn on us.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)And many of the "left" seem incapable of understanding how offensive that is ... even as they shroud themselves in the paraphrased and reiterated the words of other Black folks, in order to give ... thinking it gives validity to the claim (yes, you Dr. West ... and by the way, I'm looking at you, too, Thomas Sowell and Michael Steele, - though you two are huddling with the gop).
^^^ This ... Just, all of this! ^^^
I don't know if you saw this: http://www.democraticunderground.com/118733431, posted in the AA Group.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)You know, I take a Cornell West more seriously than the others mentioned. Sowell and Steele are flying the GOP flag. Granted, it might take a better mind than you or me to figure out why they are on that side, but at least they admit they are. West was someone who maybe did not have to like Obama, but someone who should have at the very least defended BLM, and for his trouble, got Bernie to outright publicly CASTIGATE the people that attacked BLM. The fact that Tamir Rice's killers got off today only adds more weight to a scale of injustice that was already imbalance.
Thank you for allowing me to bounce my ideas off yours..
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)maybe the post got taken down? I would love to read it.
emulatorloo
(44,186 posts)Which is why you got the 404
http://www.democraticunderground.com/118733431
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)much obliged
Number23
(24,544 posts)Obama may not "act" like white people's expectations (or Cornell Wests) of what an African American should be, but we all know that if the Dylan Roofs of the world got a shot at him, they would take it, and many self appointed champions of the left would get right on the internet and pen a variant of "he deserved it."
TRUTH and nothing but. The fucking truth and nothing but.
underthematrix
(5,811 posts)reach out to his "white" side?
Tarheel_Dem
(31,241 posts)way possible, to kiss my black ass. But that's why I'm not POTUS.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)when he heard of the Politico article. Or when FLOTUS read it...!
Tarheel_Dem
(31,241 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Cha
(297,693 posts)betsuni
(25,638 posts)I saw a comment somewhere that said it looks like Boner's wife is putting bread rolls into her purse for later.