Thankful for this little corner of DU.

[M0rpheus]

Cause GD is really killing me, today.

All the denial, equivocation, and "Colorblind" MLK appropriation is just wearing on me.

I really wonder sometimes why we even bother.






*Just random thoughts about how depressing DU has been in the last day or 2.

[seabeyond]

1. .

i have been in my own battles all day long, with the issue i fight for. my little corner of du. well said. in my little corner i am hearing you all are having your struggles, too. i could not read the OP in GD. exhausted. but i hear ya. and totally support you. and am so tired. actually, i am. but, i was trying to say, i am so sorry, this is what it has become.

i was saying on one of our threads.

they expect civility. civility needs rules. civility does not happen with lawlessness.

[NYC_SKP]

2. ...what sea said...

I spend more time in the small spaces these days.

And this past week or so has been like an invasion of low post provocateurs.

I suppose this one will be hidden too.

[seabeyond]

3. that was too weird. too. weird. nt

[M0rpheus]

6. I've got your back. No hiding this one. :)

[M0rpheus]

4. I think it may be time for another break.

I keep coming back because DU is actually a great aggregator of information. Past that... it's just getting to be more than I can stand. During that Zimmerman trial I almost set my password to a random set of characters, so I wouldn't return.

Civility indeed...

[seabeyond]

5. ya. that was a damn embarrassing time for du. for sure. i honestly am surprise when i see that

crap. i do not know why. i just think racism should be the one fuckin obvious. and i am wrong.

[M0rpheus]

7. I wish I could be still surprised by it. n/t

[jaysunb]

8. +1 n/t

[Number23]

9. GD has specialized in "color blind" MLK appropriation forever. It is one of that

forum's most pronounced specialties, actually.

GD was where I learned that MLK was more concerned "with class than color," and where he was "more renowned for his anti Vietnam War stance" or his support for sanitation workers in TN (huge percentages of which were likely black but that's besides the fact, I guess) than "just," (yes, you read that right... "JUST&quot black civil rights."

If they gave an award for "Folks Most Likely to Quote MLK at the Drop of a Hat When it is Beyond Apparent that they Have NO FUCKING CLUE Who He Was and Have No Respect for What He was About" my vote goes to GD and the folks at Fox News. Such interesting bedfellows.

[M0rpheus]

10. You know I know this...

I think found myself overwhelmed with the sheer number of threads. All of them with their own special brand of "ugh".
Of course, it's always the usual suspects, plus a new one that wasn't on my radar previously. They wore me out today.

[Number23]

20. I know. It is overwhelming. And maddening. And yes, it is always, always, ALWAYS

the "usual suspects," so "concerned" with black folks that they have posted maybe all of three times in this forum but plaster GD with thread after thread, post after post about how MLK would feel about this and that as if they have the first clue.

They wore me out today.

I hear you. They wear me out too. Which is why like you, I am really glad that this forum exists and I am really glad that you are posting in it, MOrpheus.

I just wish that so many other black/minority posters (Karenina, Brewman, NatBurner, Uzybone, AspenRose, SemiCharmed Quark, Firedupdem, FrenchieCat, Starbucks Anarchist etc. etc. etc) were here and posting too. But they got worn out too. And they left. And this place really is lessened for that happening.

[M0rpheus]

26. I miss Karenina...

[Number23]

30. Me too

And Kind of Blue and so many others it's hard to keep up.

[1StrongBlackMan]

18. Specialized in "color blind" MLK appropriation ...

But only as a break from President Obama hateration.

It's funny though ... Someone will make their "with class than color," and where he was "more renowned for his anti Vietnam War stance" ... We refute the claim with MLK's previous and subsequent writings (with links) ... They disappear for a day or two, only to return with the same claim!

It's that the conduct that we (and they) chide the low-information rightwing for engaging in?

[Number23]

21. Now you know why the dead-on comparisons of these people to the Tea Party makes them howl

Deep down, deeeeeeeeeeeep down, they know they are sipping from the same cup as the Tea Partiers. Which is why every time anyone makes the very obvious comparison, they lose it.

[1StrongBlackMan]

22. While their agenda may ...

and I repeat, MAY be different, their tactics are the same ... same leaps to the illogic, same reliance on false "facts", same out of hand rejection of any idea that does not agree with their opinion ... and, daresay I, same disrespect for "minorities."

sighhhhhh ...

[Sherman A1]

11. I have found

the blocking GD from my latest page does wonders for my blood pressure. It also shortens the list considerably to things which I find more of interest as opposed to repetitive threads discussing the same thing ad infinitum.

That said I visit DU less, post very, very infrequently, staying in the smaller groups when I do any more and use FB as a news feed, by liking various pages such as Mother Jones, Alternet, AFL-CIO and alike.

[M0rpheus]

16. I may have to try that...

Facebook is the devil, but maybe I can find some middle ground to stand on.

[Sherman A1]

17. Face book is fine

Depending upon how you use it. I use it mostly as a newsfeed. Post there very infrequently. It is a great way to keep in touch with family and friends that would have otherwise fallen by the wayside. I won't argue politics there but irately do so.

[JustAnotherGen]

12. You are a better person than me

Seriously - I couldn't resist throwing a few jabs yesterday.

[M0rpheus]

13. You wade in there like a champ!

With your sweet as pie, pals smilies that's you've co-opted to throw shade like little yellow ninjas!

I meant to ask you about your "History " with a certain poster in your other thread. Sounds interesting.

[JustAnotherGen]

24. Eh?

He's just very angry and has showed that before. . Directly to me. Called him out on it and he crawled away the last time.


Ahhhh - someone got my "theret there your safe and sound back in 1955" approach to the stupidity! Busteeeeeeed!

But having read that - my recent thread back here should make sense now. I pm's 1strg about it. That's not an innocent thread.

[M0rpheus]

25. Oh, I knew what that whole thing was about.

I was watching it live!

I think I had just finished a post in that thread and went back to read that whole mess. That one has more than a few issues.
You're a better one than me, cause I would have had to call that one out by name, if I took the time to start an OP about it.

[JustAnotherGen]

29. Ahh young Skywalker

If I had done that - it would have been alerted on.

[M0rpheus]

31. Yup. Like I said, you're a better one than me, on this one.

[gollygee]

14. I'm sorry if starting that thread made things worse.

I saw the thread about someone who didn't know what box to check or something and the responses were all about how color blind people were, and I didn't want to call anyone out but still thought it warranted mentioning.

But I didn't intend to create an even bigger problem.

[M0rpheus]

15. No good deed goes unpunished.

Generally, the OP's I see are good, honest attempts to discuss the issues. It's down in the comments that things get... messy. I know what I'm getting into when I click the link.

Yesterday though, made me feel all stabby.

[1StrongBlackMan]

19. I, for one, am appreciative of such posts ...

it reminds me that DU is STILL an American product.

[libodem]

23. Let this cheer you up

http://www.policymic.com/mobile/articles/76375/8-photos-you-didn-t-see-from-obama-s-trip-to-south-africa

[BenzoDia]

27. Hey, I didn't realize there was an African American section here.

I usually just hit the Latest Thread tab and browset he headlines.

Anyways, I'm glad to have found this little corner of DU too.

Thanks!

[M0rpheus]

28. Welcome!

[Jamaal510]

32. I'm on DU everyday, but

I'm starting to understand why my big sister doesn't care for this site too much. It isn't the activity on the race threads that annoys me. What rubs me the wrong way is somewhat unrelated to race, regarding how a number of posters seem to behave the same way that they ridicule right-wingnuts of acting. Like the far-right, they are quick to snatch defeat from any compromise or middle-ground. There is no room for grey. Obama=Bush because of a few policies they may share disagreements on. Obama is to the Right of Reagan (forget everything he has accomplished and fought for so far versus how Reagan did shady stuff like crack down on the Black Panther Party and popularized the greatest scam in American history known as trickle-down economics). All 1%ers are evil. Et cetera. And just like the Right, when it comes to religion, some of them don't respect what other people believe. I can't tell you how many times I hear people here accuse Christians of believing in a "sky fairy" or declaring that Jesus and God don't exist, even though that can't be proven. What really drives me crazy is how they seem to single out Christianity and never really go after other religions. I'm OK with a person being an atheist, but it's another thing for people to be arrogant about it.

[onpatrol98]

33. I lurk most days...when I check DU at all...

I totally understand. I missed this latest dust up. So, thankfully, I don't know what I missed. But, all of your postings sum it up for me pretty well.

My favorite comment OF ALL TIME...

"Frederick Douglass would have been proud of the person that HECKLED Michelle Obama".

I mean close your eyes and picture that one. Frederick Douglass steps into our time and space, opens his eyes and sees that a black man is President. I can't imagine a moment like that. He turns and sees the first lady being heckled by a white woman. And (apparently), he would be proud of ... the heckler.

In what reality are people really that clueless. (I'm trying to be polite.) DU...and they are proud of it.

And...as for bigotry and intolerance...some of these folk could give the tea party a run for their money.

At least the damn (sorry, I tried) tea party people hate you, create bad policies, and leave you alone.

Some in this bunch would smile at you, INSIST they have your back, while stabbing you in it. You can be friends as long as you remember that your own cause holds NO IMPORTANCE WHATSOEVER. Your purpose in life is to supply votes so that their lives can become easier. Hmm...that sounds like another era in our past, I'd rather not repeat. Where we toil, but keep our mouths shut...because God forbid, we should speak up about things that matter in our communities. Those things can wait.

Equality gap...spare me...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/08/28/these-seven-charts-show-the-black-white-economic-gap-hasnt-budged-in-50-years/

Most days...I ignore DU. Then, I'll pop in and a few posts will grab my attention. But, it doesn't take long for me to go...WTH???

[MrScorpio]

34. I can dig it nt