EPIC. New Man of Steel trailer

[wyldwolf]

[The Philosopher]

1. Holy shit

I still don't know about the costume, but from that the movie might actually be good.

[Broken_Hero]

2. .....

Saw the trailer on Attack of the Show...I'm a superman homer, but that trailer looked great.

[staffjam]

3. Disappointed

Didn't show much at all - at least with the avengers you saw Hult smashing, etc.. This is all talk and little action.

[FSogol]

4. I wish people making comic book movies could get past telling and retelling the origin stories. n/t

[Codeine]

5. You ain't kiddin'.

People already know who Supes is and how he got here. Let's tell some new stories.

[Bucky]

11. Kevin Smith thinks the next time someone does Batman, do it as a procedural.

The movie formula is to keep on ramping the stakes up and up and up, until every movie's plot involves save the planet or the galaxy or the universe. Smith argued, in the interview I saw, that it'd work just to show the hero kicking ass as part of his routine. Stop an eleborate bank robbery, track down a (superpowered) serial killer, let the hero show off how he earned his chops. What the core fan base flocks to will appeal to the general audience, if the story's done right. If you show how to make the character interesting, you don't have to shoot your Joseph Campbell load all in one movie and then try and top it in the sequels. That way a good franchise might just last longer than the standard three movie contract.

[Broken_Hero]

6. Ditto, but to be fair

DC has redone Superman's origins quite a few times the past 8 yrs or so, I swear to god they retold his origins at least 3-4 times, and again with the DC new 52....as far as creations stories go, Superman the Movie did rather well, but they did retell Batman's in Batman Begins so...with a grain of salt.

[white_wolf]

8. I agree on principle, but...

the same thing could have been said about Batman's origin, but I think Batman Begins's retelling of that origin was one of the best parts of the movie. Delving into the psychology of why anyone would choose to become Batman was very interesting.

[WCGreen]

7. This is gonna be a good one...

I am really looking forward to this show, almost as much as I was looking forward to the Dark Knight.

There is something truly mythical about Superman that no other comic book hero measure up too. I thought it got real silly in the 80's and 90's, but some of the stuff from the 60's and 70's when Swan was drawing Supe's that I really enjoyed,

And the Henry Cavill is only 29 so he can make at least 3 or 4 movies if this one makes it.

[Bucky]

9. I kinda suspect it's gonna suck.

How can DC keep on getting their characters (save Nolan's Batman) done wrong? Nolan and Marvel have clearly shown them the way to a good story: honor the source material, humanize the hero, ramp up the violence, have the villain's past strangely intertwined with the hero's despite the laws of probability and Kevin Bacon, and keep it fun. Sauce will thicken upon standing.

[wyldwolf]

10. I'm hopeful

Before Superman Returns, fans longed for Christopher Reeve or a Reeve-like performance. When 'Returns' hit, they complained he was too much like Reeve. I think Reeve was so iconic in the role no one else will ever be accepted.

[Bucky]

12. Maybe that's why they toyed with going with Nick Cage for so long.

While an idiotic idea, it was at least outside the box. The producers really have the Smallville series to thank for bringing the character out from under Reeve's shadow.

By the way, besides the whole SuperSon-Lois is married to Cyclops things, what really tanked Superman Returns is the complete violation of the character's main traits. How can you root for a Superman who (a) left Earth for 5 years and (b) starts stalking Lois Land the second he returns? Creeepeee!

They didn't help matters by casting a Lois who looks all of 23 years old. It meant Superman, before abandoning Earth, was tagging a high school kid. Erica Durrance from the TV show played a far more plausible Lois Lane, because she was sharp and cynical and had just the right arrogance to her that you could believe she'd miss the obvious about who Clark really was.

Had they cast Welling and Durrance, the movie would've been a massive hit because it already had a built in audience. File all this into the "DC can't make decent live action movies" folder.

[Xyzse]

13. I actually liked Brandon Routh

I feel like he got stuck in a bad script version of Superman.

I have to agree with their choice of Lois Lane however. Erica Durance did that well.

I still say they should do a trilogy that maybe goes like:

Movie 1 - Against Brainiac, just automatically show Superman going against something that could actually compete against him. Have Luthor on the background, don't even show him, just say that he is on the way to running for President. Make it so that he actually has to learn a few new things.

Movie 2 - The semi-origin story. First meeting with Luthor, who will probably use Metallo as his primary opponent. Something that sets up the antagonism a bit more.

Movie 3 - Luthor as President, while having Brainiac as a symbiote. This one could be fun.

Or, you could combine all 3 movies in to one, and make it last more than 2 hours like a Batman movie.
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I am being cautiously optimistic about this new version. I think they got the casting for the parents rightly this time around.