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SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
Fri May 4, 2012, 12:29 AM May 2012

Mariano Rivera - torn ACL shagging flies in BP...

could be out for the season.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120503&content_id=30328258&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb

KANSAS CITY -- While shagging fly balls in the outfield before Thursday's game against the Royals, closer Mariano Rivera twisted his right knee, tearing his ACL. The 42-year-old all-time saves leader, who is headed to New York for more tests, could be out for the year.

Responding to the MRI results, manager Joe Girardi said: "You lose a Hall of Famer ... if that's what it is, that's as bad as it gets."

"He's going to be missed. There's no other way to put it," Derek Jeter said. "You can't replace him."


video at link.

Yikes.

Sid
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Mariano Rivera - torn ACL shagging flies in BP... (Original Post) SidDithers May 2012 OP
Excuse me... what is the possibly the greatest closer to have ever lived doing shagging flies? cherokeeprogressive May 2012 #1
Exactly. Our radio guy, doing JaysTalk after the Jays put a 5-0 whupping on the Angels... SidDithers May 2012 #2
Angry bunch... and with good reason. cherokeeprogressive May 2012 #4
not angry...just sad. nt Laura PourMeADrink May 2012 #11
Well, he's done. bluedigger May 2012 #3
Which surgery did you have? Patellar tendon here. cherokeeprogressive May 2012 #5
Same here. bluedigger May 2012 #7
Had the first op in '88 when the procedure was brand new, at the Naval Hospital in Bremerton, WA. cherokeeprogressive May 2012 #15
To a Brit your headline means something very different intaglio May 2012 #6
Heh. That wouldn't be proper. bluedigger May 2012 #8
That slang now goes around the world, but most people understand the context. HuckleB May 2012 #16
I hate the Yankees, but Ohio Dem May 2012 #9
Oh NOOOO....I am devastated. Not just that we will miss his playing - but will miss Laura PourMeADrink May 2012 #10
I know the reason! Indianademocrat91 May 2012 #12
Good One RockaFowler May 2012 #13
As a proud member of Red Sox Nation, flvegan May 2012 #14
This committed Yankee hater has always loved Rivera. HuckleB May 2012 #17
Injuries happen. bigwillq May 2012 #18
 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
1. Excuse me... what is the possibly the greatest closer to have ever lived doing shagging flies?
Fri May 4, 2012, 12:46 AM
May 2012

If I were his coach, he'd be encased in styrofoam until I needed him on the mound. In fact, we'd load the styrofoam sarcophagus onto a cart with huge balloon tires and open it on the mound.

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
2. Exactly. Our radio guy, doing JaysTalk after the Jays put a 5-0 whupping on the Angels...
Fri May 4, 2012, 12:53 AM
May 2012

said something like "Rivera has pitched for 67 years without serious arm injury, and then he blows out his knee shagging flies."

Yankee nation is gonna be a very sad / angry bunch tomorrow, I think.

Sid

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
4. Angry bunch... and with good reason.
Fri May 4, 2012, 01:07 AM
May 2012

My goodness... that's like letting your star quarterback practice with the offensive linemen.

At his age an ACL reconstruct is likely to be a career ender. The only saving grace I see is that it's his right knee. After ACL surgery (I've had both reconstructed) it's MUCH easier to climb stairs than it is to descend, and a right hander pushes off (climbs the stairs) with his right leg and catches himself (descends the stairs) with his left.

I was actually sitting in a bar when I saw it on the TV this afternoon and there seemed to me to be a look of resignation on his face as they were carrying him to the cart.

bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
3. Well, he's done.
Fri May 4, 2012, 12:57 AM
May 2012

You don't come back from that at 42.

I had my ACL done at 41.

He'll probably try, though.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
5. Which surgery did you have? Patellar tendon here.
Fri May 4, 2012, 01:12 AM
May 2012

I used to joke that I was Frankenstein-ish due to the fact that there were parts of my body that weren't where they were supposed to be.

bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
7. Same here.
Fri May 4, 2012, 01:53 AM
May 2012

I really regret not getting the cadaver tissue - it was only another $8G. My patellar tendon and patella have never been worth a damn since the surgery. Hurts to kneel on it over ten years later, still. Other than that It's held up well enough, but I'm not sure how much longer it's got. At 52, I won't fix it again.

How's your's?

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
15. Had the first op in '88 when the procedure was brand new, at the Naval Hospital in Bremerton, WA.
Fri May 4, 2012, 10:22 PM
May 2012

I was 27 at the time. I noticed that there were lots of guys walking with one bent knee and found out the day before surgery that the protocol then was to brace the post-op knee at 45 degrees. Well, having the knee locked in that position for a few weeks was causing the tendon replacement to shorten. So when I went home after they took the staples out of my leg I got into a tub full of water that was as hot as I could stand it and started leaning on my knee until I got to full extension. I did that every single night for about an hour. I left the brace off until I went back to the doctor.

By the time I had the second one reconstructed it was '92 and the post-op protocol was to brace the knee at full extension so I had to work in the OTHER direction to get to full flexion.

Up until about two years ago I could squat so low my butt rested on my ankles and I could rest on my knees that way as well. No longer though, and just recently my left knee (the first one operated on) seems to have something loose in it that gets caught in the joint on occasion. It makes me unable to extend fully and walking is excruciating. I can almost always either give my leg a loose shake or stomp my foot a couple of times and make it go away.

The last surgery I had was in 2004 to remove one of the screws used to hold the patellar bone plug in place in my femur. For some reason it was protruding into the joint and every time I put my foot down I was actually pushing the screw into my tibia. Have you ever seen the screw they use? Well the screw they used in '88 was about the diameter of a pencil at the shaft, with HUGE flukes. When I woke up in recovery, I asked the nurse if I could have it since it had been part of me since '88. She thought I was crazy, but before I got wheeled out to my car she handed it to me in a little glass bottle. I was going to have it made into a necklace, but my wife nixed that idea.

Lately, both knees are starting to feel a little arthritic due to meniscus and cartilege damage that I knew was going to happen. I just turned 51 and if I sit in one place for more than about an hour, I look like I'm 80 for my first few steps when I get up.

Left knee: Stepped in a hole rounding 3rd base in a softball game. The grass was mowed and there was no evidence of a depression as the grass was flat on the surface.

Right knee: Same situation, but in my own back yard chasing my dogs on a Saturday morning. Stepped in a depression while running full speed. I was home alone. It took me what seemed like forever to drag myself to the back porch and into the house. That time I actually separated the ligament from it's anchor point, which I think the doctor called the tibial plateau.

Be Well!

bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
8. Heh. That wouldn't be proper.
Fri May 4, 2012, 01:58 AM
May 2012

"Shagging" is used almost exclusively in either a baseball or Austin Powers context here in the USA.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
10. Oh NOOOO....I am devastated. Not just that we will miss his playing - but will miss
Fri May 4, 2012, 06:41 AM
May 2012

his aura. Maybe he can be a pitching coach.

Indianademocrat91

(390 posts)
12. I know the reason!
Fri May 4, 2012, 03:09 PM
May 2012

Probably because of the condensed NBA season. You know because freak accidents never happen - Mr. Wilbon

flvegan

(64,407 posts)
14. As a proud member of Red Sox Nation,
Fri May 4, 2012, 09:50 PM
May 2012

I was saddened to hear this. A rivalry is just that, and the Red Sox v Evil Empire has been good for both teams and good for baseball. I would never wish to see a legend like Rivera hurt. I hope he does indeed come back. Heal well, heal fast good sir.

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
17. This committed Yankee hater has always loved Rivera.
Fri May 4, 2012, 10:56 PM
May 2012

He has been incredible for so very long. His sportsmanship is unrivaled. His focus a true inspiration.

I hope he comes back, but age is what it is. Ugh.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
18. Injuries happen.
Fri May 4, 2012, 11:37 PM
May 2012

Looks like he wants to give it another shot. I hope he does it for himself. We'll see.

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