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trumad

(41,692 posts)
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 09:43 AM Jan 2012

Bill Belichik just fined toothed the blueprint to destroy a Tim Tebow type offense.

Last edited Sun Jan 15, 2012, 12:02 PM - Edit history (1)

Stunting and mixing coverages, and solid pressure in the backfield.

I have said it from the beginning...NFL defenses will quickly learn to shut down the option and force Tebow to become a passing quarterback.

Problem with that--- a 46 percent accuracy rating and happy feet in the pocket---attributes that you do not want your QB to have.

I'm sure some will chime in with-- What about the Steeler game?

Listen---with receivers that wide open against a team with 6 missing starters, shit---I could have thrown for touchdowns.

Throw that game out and what you have is a guy who lost 4 out his last 5 games because NFL Defenses have figured him out.

Bill B. simply fined-toothed it last night.....


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Bill Belichik just fined toothed the blueprint to destroy a Tim Tebow type offense. (Original Post) trumad Jan 2012 OP
What about the Steeler game? taterguy Jan 2012 #1
It also helped that one of the league's best offenses Auggie Jan 2012 #2
Disagree n2doc Jan 2012 #3
Uhh--- Tebow scored 10 points against the 31 ranked defense. trumad Jan 2012 #4
Yep. And he was behind 14-0 in a few minutes n2doc Jan 2012 #5
Right--- trumad Jan 2012 #6
The media gave Tebow all the credit, even when his team barely won against crap teams. HuckleB Jan 2012 #12
Yup... joeybee12 Jan 2012 #7
I give that guy major props trumad Jan 2012 #8
They need to draft a decent QB.. joeybee12 Jan 2012 #9
I wouldn't be a bit surprised if they trade him... trumad Jan 2012 #10
I was wondering the same thing Auggie Jan 2012 #13
I only watched one play from the game many a good man Jan 2012 #11
Just like Gruden's Bucs did to Dog Killer Vick KamaAina Jan 2012 #14
The dog killer is a better passer. trumad Jan 2012 #15
And a better role model. nt madinmaryland Jan 2012 #16
Nope---Vick is a horrible role model. trumad Jan 2012 #17
But at least kids won't want to grow up to kill dogs. KamaAina Jan 2012 #21
Tebow will not have a long NFL career Jack Rabbit Jan 2012 #18
Listening to the post game show on ESPN, the pundits tried to put a nice spin on things for Tim, but Old and In the Way Jan 2012 #19
4 out of 5 losses in the last month trumad Jan 2012 #20
even before the defenses "figured him out" the offensive totals were unimpressive fishwax Jan 2012 #22
Score early and often, take away his pass protection, no mistakes on defense rocktivity Jan 2012 #23

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
3. Disagree
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 10:13 AM
Jan 2012

The way Brady was throwing, 90% of teams would have lost to the pats yesterday.

I suppose the real lesson is that the Bronco's can't win against a high powered offense. They lost to the Lions the same way. No disgrace in that.

People want to put this all on Tebow's head, but really, outside of the elite offenses (GB and NO, maybe Detroit), who would have stood up to and matched a 35 point barrage in the first half alone?

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
5. Yep. And he was behind 14-0 in a few minutes
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 10:32 AM
Jan 2012

Being way ahead helps a defense immeasurably. All they have to do is pin their ears back and attack.

I'm not going to argue that Denver has a great, or even good offense. But I'm not going to say that the Pat's defense suddenly turned onto the 2000 Ravens, either. In any case, next year will be interesting.

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
12. The media gave Tebow all the credit, even when his team barely won against crap teams.
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 01:26 PM
Jan 2012

So, guess what? He gets the blame now.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
7. Yup...
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 11:57 AM
Jan 2012

Although I will add that Fox is a better coach than a lot of the schmucks out there...he knew how to adjust and work with what he had.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
8. I give that guy major props
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 12:02 PM
Jan 2012

The team as a whole isn't that bad.

I mean---it's an 8-8 team for sure and has much more to improve upon... but they aint gonna get to the next level with Mr. 46 percent at the helm.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
9. They need to draft a decent QB..
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 12:25 PM
Jan 2012

Brady will suffice as a back-up...problem is, Denver is one crazy city...they really like Teblow...it may take 0-16 next year for them to wise up!

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
10. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if they trade him...
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 01:03 PM
Jan 2012

To Jacksonville for instance. J-Ville has the 7th pick and I wouldn't be surprised if those clowns went after him.

Tebow would increase attendance for sure.

Auggie

(31,167 posts)
13. I was wondering the same thing
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 01:31 PM
Jan 2012

Jacksonville didn't come to my mind, just the trade. But I can see it.

You know Elway is seething inside.

many a good man

(5,997 posts)
11. I only watched one play from the game
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 01:10 PM
Jan 2012

Denver had a 3rd and 22 - and Tebow handed off to his running back. That's all you need to know about Tebow's future as a QB in the NFL.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
14. Just like Gruden's Bucs did to Dog Killer Vick
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 03:23 PM
Jan 2012

everyone else copied them. He instantly became mediocre.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
15. The dog killer is a better passer.
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 03:24 PM
Jan 2012

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60 percent accuracy rating.

46 percent is anemic.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
21. But at least kids won't want to grow up to kill dogs.
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 08:43 PM
Jan 2012

That's what worries me about St. Timmeh. Won't someone please think of the children?!

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
18. Tebow will not have a long NFL career
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 06:31 PM
Jan 2012

I know, I know, it takes two or three seasons to build a quarterback. But Tebow isn't improving and the defenses know what to do against him.

I predict he'll be released after next season.

Old and In the Way

(37,540 posts)
19. Listening to the post game show on ESPN, the pundits tried to put a nice spin on things for Tim, but
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 07:08 PM
Jan 2012

they pretty much agreed that he best learn some new tricks if he wants a long term career in the NFL. If the #31 D in the league has his O figured out...he's in big trouble. Maybe he should concentrate on his passing mechanics instead of performing circumcisions during the off-season.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
20. 4 out of 5 losses in the last month
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 07:12 PM
Jan 2012

Proves the Defenses have figured him out.

He got lucky that he ran into a injury depleted Steelers team in the first playoff game.

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
22. even before the defenses "figured him out" the offensive totals were unimpressive
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 09:20 PM
Jan 2012

In the regular season, the offense averaged less than 17 points per game with him at the helm. Barely over 17 ppg if you factor in the playoffs. Not the worst in the league, but there aren't a lot of wins for the teams below them. In 5 of his 11 regular season starts the offense didn't score more than one touchdown. On average, Tebow threw for more yards in the regular-season losses than he did in the wins.

What percentage of teams who score 18 points or fewer in a game win that game? I don't know the numbers, but I'm guessing such teams, on the whole, have a losing record. But the Broncos were 5-3 this year when scoring 18 points or fewer. And they were 3-2 in games where they scored one or fewer TDs.

Defense, baby.

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
23. Score early and often, take away his pass protection, no mistakes on defense
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 09:35 PM
Jan 2012

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well, duh.

Meanwhile, John Elway must be laughing up his sleeve. Deciding to defer to the fans and play Tebow was a win-win -- if Tebow excels, he looks like a genius; if Tebow doesn't, it's the fans' fault for coming up with such a dumb idea!


rocktivity

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