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joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 12:45 PM Sep 2015

Football Players Who Blindsided Ref Say They Were Following Coach's Orders

Michael Moreno and Victor Rojas wish they could take it back.

The Texas teenagers, speaking exclusively to George Stephanopoulos on “Good Morning America,” were suspended from their football team and school after blindsiding a referee during a game.

Video of the incident drew national attention after the footage showed the boys going out of their way to collide with referee Robert Watts, whose back was to the players at the time. The teens, playing for John Jay High School in the San Antonio area, say they were following orders from an assistant coach, Mack Breed.

“You put your trust into this grown-up, this guardian, your coach, who’s been there for me. ... I trust him. I did what I was told,” Moreno said.

https://gma.yahoo.com/football-players-blindsided-ref-were-following-coachs-orders-121135389--abc-news-topstories.html#

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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Football Players Who Blindsided Ref Say They Were Following Coach's Orders (Original Post) joeybee12 Sep 2015 OP
Future Patriots!!! n/t trotsky Sep 2015 #1
My first thought was U Miami, but you win. n/t Goblinmonger Sep 2015 #3
+ 4 Super Bowl rings! El Supremo Sep 2015 #7
I was thinking Saints. hughee99 Sep 2015 #9
Injure other players, yes. Not refs. n/t trotsky Sep 2015 #11
Do the Pats have a history of trying to injure refs that I don't know about? hughee99 Sep 2015 #12
Here, this may help: trotsky Sep 2015 #13
Ah, so you can't explain why this fits better with the Pats than the Saints. hughee99 Sep 2015 #14
LOL - ok maybe THIS will help! trotsky Sep 2015 #15
Not to butt in much... El Supremo Sep 2015 #16
Fair enough. hughee99 Sep 2015 #17
Glad that coach didn't have some grudge on his wife... ret5hd Sep 2015 #2
Yup... joeybee12 Sep 2015 #4
The coach might have chosen murielm99 Sep 2015 #5
I wouldn't be surprised... joeybee12 Sep 2015 #6
I believe them. bluedigger Sep 2015 #8
I tend to agree... joeybee12 Sep 2015 #10
UPDATE: Coach Changes Story rocktivity Sep 2015 #18
The coach is full of shit. trumad Sep 2015 #19
Should we not at least wait to determine if the referee actually said what he was accused of mythology Sep 2015 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author rocktivity Sep 2015 #22
The students were suspended for 75 days to alternative learning classes. TexasTowelie Sep 2015 #21
UPDATE: Coach Changes Story AGAIN! rocktivity Sep 2015 #23
DID YOU ORDER THE CODE RED? Capt. Obvious Sep 2015 #24
Points for the A Few Good Men reference Brother Buzz Sep 2015 #25
Kids too willing to please a coach. Then, the sarge, then corrupt business owner, etc. Hoyt Sep 2015 #26

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
12. Do the Pats have a history of trying to injure refs that I don't know about?
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 12:56 PM
Sep 2015

It seems like the Saints comparison is far more appropriate than anything the Pats are accused of doing.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
17. Fair enough.
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 03:24 PM
Sep 2015

Although that's not exactly unique to the Pats either. Just ask Rae Carruth and Ray Lewis.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
4. Yup...
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 02:18 PM
Sep 2015

I sort of think this kids are telling the truth, then again, they're old enough to know doing that was wrong.

murielm99

(30,740 posts)
5. The coach might have chosen
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 02:58 PM
Sep 2015

the very kids who most needed approval. It works with peers, and with adults who are willing to manipulate people.

I don't know if they can prove what they are saying about the coach.

I agree that what they did is wrong. There has to be a penalty for it.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
10. I tend to agree...
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 07:16 PM
Sep 2015

And then one wonders, did this coach try this previously? And not as blatant?

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
18. UPDATE: Coach Changes Story
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 05:09 PM
Sep 2015


Guardian.com: An assistant football coach at a Texas high school told his school principal that he did order two young players to hit a referee to the ground – but only in anger at the official’s racist remarks.

According to a sideline source and the accounts provided to Outside the Lines of four John Jay players, Watts, the referee, used the n-word twice during the game, once before and once after the infamous hits, and also used language offensive to Latino students...

In a letter detailing his interactions with the head coach after the game, and seen by ESPN’s Outside the Lines, John Jay high school principal Robert Harris says the team’s secondary coach, Mack Breed, admitted he “directed the students to make the referee pay for his racial comments and calls...

“I later met with Coach Breed at John Jay High School ... in my office in the presence of Coach Gutierrez,” Harris wrote. “Coach Breed told me that he directed the students to make the referee pay for his racial comments and calls. He wanted to take full responsibility for his actions. Mr Breed at one point during our conversation stated that he should have handled the referee himself.”

Breed is black. Watts is white. Moreno and Rojas are both Latino. Breed has declined to comment publicly about what he told his players.


Bree and Watts: out of scholastic sports permanently. Moreno and Rojas: no more football for the rest of the season.


rocktivity

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
19. The coach is full of shit.
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 07:00 PM
Sep 2015

First off the ref has ref'ed over 500 games with no incidents. Second...immediately after it happened the players said the coach asked them to hit the ref for cheating them during the game. I.E.: bad calls.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
20. Should we not at least wait to determine if the referee actually said what he was accused of
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 12:38 AM
Sep 2015

or if the coach actually ordered the attack?

Response to rocktivity (Reply #18)

TexasTowelie

(112,171 posts)
21. The students were suspended for 75 days to alternative learning classes.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 03:33 AM
Sep 2015

SAN ANTONIO — The two Jay football players who attacked an official were sentenced to 75 days in alternative school, according to their attorney.

Senior Michael Moreno and sophomore Victor Rojas will be eligible to return to Jay on Jan. 15, according to their attorney, Jesse Hernandez. Hernandez said the time the students have already spent in alternative school will count toward the sentence.

Jay assistant coach Mack Breed admitted to directing two football players to attack an official during a game, according to an internal district statement.

In a statement signed by Jay principal Robert Harris, Breed met with Harris the night after sophomore Victor Rojas, 15, and senior Michael Moreno, 17, tackled and speared umpire Robert Watts at the end of Jay’s nondistrict game at Marble Falls.

Read more: http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/high_school/high_school_football/article/John-Jay-High-School-football-players-suspended-6525339.php


The UIL is supposed to meet today to discuss the incident and possible punishments for the coach and school.

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
23. UPDATE: Coach Changes Story AGAIN!
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 09:58 AM
Sep 2015
WTSP News: The Jay High School assistant football coach who admitted he told some of his players to go after a game official before two Mustangs defensive backs attacked umpire Robert Watts in a game against Marble Falls on Sept. 4 has recanted his prior statement about the incident, two sources have told Kens5.com.

In his second statement...Mack Breed wrote that he took the blame in the incident to protect the two players from being expelled from school, one of the sources said. But Breed denied that he told the players to go after Watts.

But now that HE'S the one who ended up getting expelled, he realizes he did the wrong thing? Way to be a good role model, coach!


rocktivity
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