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Related: About this forumTesla's FSD - a Useless Technology Demo (author documents failures)
https://tomverbeure.github.io/2024/05/20/Tesla-FSD-First-and-Last-Impressions.htmlSkip to the conclusions ( who doesn't? )
The way it currently behaves, FSD is a system that cant be trusted to make the right decisions. It makes the most basic mistakes and it makes many of them.
Without FSD, you pay attention to the road and everything else is within your control. With FSD, you still need to pay attention but now theres the additional cognitive load to monitor an unpredictable system over which you dont have direct control. Forget about just being focused, you need to be hyper-focused, and you need to pay $99 per month or a one time fee of $12,000 for the privilege. With the limited functionality of autopilot, you hit the sweet spot: adaptive cruise control and lane centering work reliably, and you dont need to worry about any other mischief.
Maybe one day Ill be able to drive to Lake Tahoe by typing in the address, sit back, take a nap, or play on my phone. Until then, its just a fancy technology demo with little practical value.
Without FSD, you pay attention to the road and everything else is within your control. With FSD, you still need to pay attention but now theres the additional cognitive load to monitor an unpredictable system over which you dont have direct control. Forget about just being focused, you need to be hyper-focused, and you need to pay $99 per month or a one time fee of $12,000 for the privilege. With the limited functionality of autopilot, you hit the sweet spot: adaptive cruise control and lane centering work reliably, and you dont need to worry about any other mischief.
Maybe one day Ill be able to drive to Lake Tahoe by typing in the address, sit back, take a nap, or play on my phone. Until then, its just a fancy technology demo with little practical value.
Scary use case:
![](https://tomverbeure.github.io/assets/fsd/no_turn_on_right.jpg)
The second traffic light has a dont-turn-on-red sign. The light was red, the Tesla came to a full stop, and then pressed on the gas to move on while the light was still red. (According to my colleague, police often lay in wait at this location to catch violators.)
Pressed on the gas? 💨
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Tesla's FSD - a Useless Technology Demo (author documents failures) (Original Post)
usonian
Jun 15
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Arne
(3,329 posts)1. Have a dead wheel sensor on small Toyota.
It disables the anti lock braking and traction.
I like it that way.
Midnight Writer
(22,572 posts)2. FSD - Full Self Driving
Old Crank
(4,252 posts)3. With all of these systems
cruise, adaptive-cruise, auto-pilot, full driving, under no case should the vehicle be able to speed unless under the direct control of a human driver. (meaning the system isn't in control.)