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rug

(82,333 posts)
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 07:14 PM Jan 2014

Why 'Atheist Churches' Are Making Us Atheists Look Ridiculous



By Drew Miller 6 hours ago

"Organizing atheists," said Richard Dawkins, "is like herding cats." That fact became quite clear recently, as one of the largest organized assemblies of nonbelievers suffered an internal rift. Some members of the Sunday Assembly — an "atheist church" founded by British comedians Sanderson Jones and Pippa Evans — declared that they would form a splinter group called Godless Revival, drawing comparisons to the hundreds of divisions within the world's major religions.

The Sunday Assembly split doesn't quite have the excitement of, say, the centuries of bloodletting between Sunnis and Shias, or Catholics and Protestants. But it raises an important question: do non-believing assemblies differ from theistic congregations in any meaningful way? Come on, atheists. You left the church for a reason, didn't you?

We shouldn't be surprised at the split in the Sunday Assembly. The lack of dogma means there's no one "right" way to not believe in the supernatural, so there's no way to prove either brand of humanism "wrong." But why are these atheists still gathering on Sundays?

There are a few likely answers to this question. Perhaps former churchgoers are simply too conditioned to seek guidance on Sundays. It's also entirely possible that many of the congregants simply see church-like communities as a good way to empower atheism. This is quite a stretch.

http://www.policymic.com/articles/79097/why-atheist-churches-are-making-us-atheists-look-ridiculous
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Why 'Atheist Churches' Are Making Us Atheists Look Ridiculous (Original Post) rug Jan 2014 OP
Indeed. gcomeau Jan 2014 #1
+1 CFLDem Jan 2014 #2
+ an extra 9000 LostOne4Ever Jan 2014 #6
Many of those organizations are closed to nonbelievers jmowreader Jan 2014 #11
Agree. I some communities there really are very few options for socialization outside cbayer Jan 2014 #12
Not surprised about this. longship Jan 2014 #3
Oh my gwheezie Jan 2014 #4
this is just the craziest thing.... mike_c Jan 2014 #5
As I said before LostOne4Ever Jan 2014 #7
No, no!! Not the Brussel Sprouts! cbayer Jan 2014 #10
Secular Humanist societies have had "atheist churches" for over 70 years. Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #8
Interesting take. cbayer Jan 2014 #9
 

gcomeau

(5,764 posts)
1. Indeed.
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 07:16 PM
Jan 2014

People want a sense of community? There are countless organizations they can become a part of that don't idiotically try to emulate churches.

Nothing that calls itself a "church" has any business tacking "atheist" onto it.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
11. Many of those organizations are closed to nonbelievers
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 05:40 PM
Jan 2014

Except for the Rotary and Lions, all the groups out there demand belief in a Supreme Being.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
12. Agree. I some communities there really are very few options for socialization outside
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 05:48 PM
Jan 2014

of the church or the bar.

longship

(40,416 posts)
3. Not surprised about this.
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 07:22 PM
Jan 2014

It is a ridiculous idea anyway. All atheists know that if you put a dozen non-believers in a room, you'll have a dozen divergent opinions on non-belief. Plus, there will be a silly chair throwing battle about atheism vs agnosticism.

Plus, an atheist church is a contradiction in terms.

And it's fucking silly.

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
4. Oh my
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 07:24 PM
Jan 2014

I'm an atheist, I have a mild interest in religion but not enough to join an atheist church, although I do like the OT when I work christmas. If I did start believing in god, I would pick one of the dancing religions with colorful outfits, these atheist church folks in the article look kinda boring.

mike_c

(36,281 posts)
5. this is just the craziest thing....
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 07:30 PM
Jan 2014

I utterly agree with the premise of the OP subject line. WTF?

LostOne4Ever

(9,288 posts)
7. As I said before
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 08:12 PM
Jan 2014

There are better wastes of time and energy for us to explore. Like ridding the world of the scourge of Brussels sprouts (or Zucchini in deference to my good friend Cbayer).

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
8. Secular Humanist societies have had "atheist churches" for over 70 years.
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 08:51 PM
Jan 2014

They don't have to be ridiculous.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
9. Interesting take.
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 12:08 PM
Jan 2014

Policymic generally represents the viewpoints of a rather young population. I wonder what the average age of attendees at the assemblies is?

At any rate, he bases this on some conclusions which may or may not be valid. Are the attendees looking for leadership or company?

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