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eomer

(3,845 posts)
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 09:44 PM Jan 2014

Describe the god(s) you don't believe in.

This isn't just for atheists, although they do have an advantage in that they don't believe in at least one more god than theists.

And please don't take the easy road, don't everyone pick Thor. Try to describe one of the gods that you don't believe in but that at least millions of other people do, let's make it interesting.

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Describe the god(s) you don't believe in. (Original Post) eomer Jan 2014 OP
All of them. cleanhippie Jan 2014 #1
All the ancient Greek ones for a start. Turbineguy Jan 2014 #2
Funny thing is LostOne4Ever Jan 2014 #16
I don't believe in the gods that can't be scientifically proven to exist. Ergo, all of them. Scuba Jan 2014 #3
Don't you believe in Maxwell's little daemon? Xipe Totec Jan 2014 #5
I'll go through that door when I come to it. Scuba Jan 2014 #12
Nicely done! Xipe Totec Jan 2014 #13
Xipe Totec Xipe Totec Jan 2014 #4
A god whose love is conditional. rug Jan 2014 #6
It's the creative energy. The Chi. libdem4life Jan 2014 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #8
A god who won't smite my enemies or bestow great favors on me. Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #9
I don't believe in missingthebigdog Jan 2014 #10
I don't believe in a God that would give infinite punishment for finite sins nt el_bryanto Jan 2014 #11
+100 (nt) LostOne4Ever Jan 2014 #17
I believe we're to primitive to truly understand that concept. Phlem Jan 2014 #14
Hastur as described by August Derelth Agnosticsherbet Jan 2014 #15
That sounds like it would make for a great pet Tyrs WolfDaemon Jan 2014 #21
I would not even wish Republicans on Hastur. Agnosticsherbet Jan 2014 #22
I don't believe in any of them atm LostOne4Ever Jan 2014 #18
I not only don't believe in all gods, I don't even believe the concept of a god makes any sense. eomer Jan 2014 #19
They're very similar to the unicorns and dragons I don't believe in. n/t trotsky Jan 2014 #20

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
1. All of them.
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 09:46 PM
Jan 2014

And to borrow a phrase: Were all non-believers. I just don't believe in one more god than most others.

LostOne4Ever

(9,288 posts)
16. Funny thing is
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 05:30 AM
Jan 2014

I think that makes them the most believable of the classic archetype of gods. It would certainly explain why the world is as messed up as it is.

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
4. Xipe Totec
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 09:48 PM
Jan 2014

Xipe Totec connected agricultural renewal with warfare. He flayed himself to give food to humanity, symbolic of the way maize seeds lose their outer layer before germination and of snakes shedding their skin. Without his skin, he was depicted as a golden god. Xipe Totec was believed by the Aztecs to be the god that invented war. His insignia included the pointed cap and rattle staff, which was the war attire for the Mexica emperor. He had a temple called Yopico within the Great Temple of Tenochtitlan.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xipe_Totec

Response to eomer (Original post)

missingthebigdog

(1,233 posts)
10. I don't believe in
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 09:58 PM
Jan 2014

A god that punishes children for the sins of their parents;
A god that would cast his own beloved children into everlasting fire;
A god that would allow the tragedies at Newtown, Columbine, Oklahoma City, Waco, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, etc.;
A god that would tolerate the acts done in his name by people like the "Reverend" Fred Phelps.

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
14. I believe we're to primitive to truly understand that concept.
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 10:09 PM
Jan 2014

Just look at the state mother earth is in, that's all us baby. And usually the winner's of war write the history (I'm sure to not be biased in any way).

If there were, it certainly would want us to utilize our full potential for the growth and benefit of the whole unit.

Blowing each other up and disappearing with all the money,....totally missing the point.

IMHO

-p

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
15. Hastur as described by August Derelth
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 10:26 PM
Jan 2014

"The Feaster from Afar, a black, shriveled, flying monstrosity with tentacles tipped with razor-sharp talons that can pierce a victim's skull and siphon out the brain."

Tyrs WolfDaemon

(2,289 posts)
21. That sounds like it would make for a great pet
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 01:37 PM
Jan 2014

Just imagine having something like that which you could send out so as to siphon out the brains of repubs.



(This is obviously in jest, I would never ever think about siphoning out the brains of repubs. After all, they don't have much worth siphoning off to begin with.
My guess is that they would also give the critter a stomach ache.)

LostOne4Ever

(9,288 posts)
18. I don't believe in any of them atm
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 05:37 AM
Jan 2014

But I actively disbelieve in:

Any god that is powerful enough to create the universe but won't raise a finger to stop all the pain and suffering in this world.
Any god that is the embodiment of an element or idea (think of your classic polytheistic god).
Any god whose existence breaks the laws of physics.

That said I can see a god like the god of Thomas Paine or Spinoza could exist, but I just don't see any evidence for either and I don't see how the latter is anything more than a "spiritual" atheism.

eomer

(3,845 posts)
19. I not only don't believe in all gods, I don't even believe the concept of a god makes any sense.
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 07:02 AM
Jan 2014

Or to put it another way, I don't believe in abandoning science at the edges or in the gaps. Whatever we are ever able to observe, now or in the distant future, I believe we should seek an explanation for it within science. If we discover some entity that seems godlike then the definition of the universe (everything that exists) is still such that that entity is part of the universe. And the laws of nature (an explanation for how everything works) are still such that they must explain how that entity exists and works.

Or yet another way, I don't see how anyone has given a cogent explanation for how to determine that a particular entity that exists is god rather than just another ordinary (despite however extraordinary it seems to us) thing that's part of our universe.

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