Have you investigated Gnostic Christianity?

[Greatest I am]

Have you investigated Gnostic Christianity?

The Gnostic wing of Christianity, if it can even be called that today, has quite a few differences to Christianity and Catholicism. If the old Gnostic Christians were here, they would hardly recognize what has happened to the original Orthodox Catholic Church or its various offshoots in Protestantism and Islam. The Gnostic Christian Jesus would have a fit and would be quite disappointed I think. I know that this Gnostic Christian is.

Please suffer through a bit of boring history.

The main differences that moved the old Christians to decimate Gnostic Christians and burn their scriptures was literalism in reading scriptures. They were also more patriarchal and were not about to grant equality to women. Much later, gays would also lose the equality that they enjoyed. These were Jews don’t forget. The Gnostic version of Jesus and his Father was that they were Universalist. That communistic view of the demographics of heaven did not go over well with those who had a more pyramidal view of what they wanted God to be. War was declared and my side lost.

That is why we think literalism to be quite evil. Proof is shown by the fact that it led to the Dark Ages, the Inquisition and all the other affronts to humanity that the Abrahamic cults have collectively done and continue to civilized society. Not too civilized but we Abrahamic cultists are what we are. If we were not sinners we would not be seeking a God to forgive us.

The Gnostic Christian Jesus, and the Gnostic Christians of that flavor, see a spark of God in all people including women and gays. That fact, to me, makes Gnostic Christianity a more desirable denomination of Christianity than all the rest. After all, if a religion cannot accept equality of humans as a starting place, then it cannot be a good religion. All souls are equal. That is scripture. That is why we connect equality to righteousness. If a religion cannot abide with equality of the sexes then to my mind it is not a just religion and is not worthy of the support of moral people.

Inequality is an immoral position and most of the Abrahamic cults are of that immoral persuasion. They take, --- he shall rule over you, --- to an immoral institutionalized position.

As the superior Catholic theology, it is my hope that Gnostic Christianity will eventually absorb the non-egalitarian and immoral Christian cults. I hope their members recognize that equality is the right moral system for all to live under, and that as religionists, to not actively support equality for all, would make any denomination of the Abrahamic cults more of a satanic cult than a God loving one.

Regards
DL

[shenmue]

1. This guy is also on a site called Orthodox Christianity.net

and he keeps getting put on moderation there, because of his ridicule and harassment of other posters.

[Ilsa]

2. Thank you for posting.

Great food for thought.

[okasha]

3. In his journal,

he advocates the assassination of the Pope and other Catholic clergy. Why is he still here?

[shenmue]

5. I wonder if not enough people have reported him yet.

Maybe so many people get grossed out and put him on Ignore, he kind of floats under the radar of the moderators.

He likes to troll, I've seen a lot of his posts. Go to http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php and look up "Greatest I Am" as his user name. You'll see.

[okasha]

8. I checked his profile because his history

is very similar to another's, though his writing is a bit more coherent. That's how I came across his journal.

I emailed a host, since I saw no way to alert on a journal. I assume the admins will deal with the issue.

[shenmue]

9. Thanks

[hrmjustin]

6. Looks like the post was hidden but remained in the journal.

Don't know much else about him.

[NYC_SKP]

4. Thank you for posting this. Many don't realize how much things change over time.

Historical developments are among the reasons I'm interested in Religions without myself being a faithful follower of any particular one of them.

[Greatest I am]

19. Time

Yes and few are actually interested these days as the belief to non-belief tipping point gets closer.

Regards
DL

[MisterP]

7. literalism is quite new, actually

(and as for the rest) http://historyvsthedavincicode.com

[Greatest I am]

18. Literalism

There is the literal WORD of God that Protestant right has championed and there is the older literalism which had Constantine's church killing all the free thinkers off and ushering in the Dark Ages.

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Regards
DL

[jwirr]

10. Literalism was the difference. First he does not make it clear who the literalist is. But I wonder

if he realizes that the rw is the literalist of today?

[Greatest I am]

21. Enemy

Absolutely.

I know which of the religionists are the most evil.

For the evils of religion to grow, read any scripture literally.

Any and all harmless beliefs are allowed by Gnostic Christians. We know that any myth can be internalized for good results and as esoteric ecumenists, we enjoy knowledge of all the myths that man has created about Gods.

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When there is a victim is when that view changes. Then you see why Christianity annihilated Gnostic Christianity. We do not let the evils of forced literalism go unopposed. To a tyrant like Constantine, we were poison. One of his first commands to his new Church was to kill off the free thinkers and of course, his new tool, his Church, did as bid. It was quite a ride for free thought for the next 1,000 years.

How can a Gnostic Christian, --- and any other free thinking moral person, --- not judge other's morals when seeing someone hurt other because of the same Church's teachings today?

Can you ignore such things if you have decent morals? Impossible. Especially with Islam pulling the same murderous, freedom stifling ****.

We must discriminate and judge constantly. Every law is a compulsion on all of us to judge.

It is my view that all right wing literalists and fundamentals hurt all of us who are moral religionists, --- as well as those who do not believe. Literalists hurt their parent religions --- and everyone else, be he a believer or not. Literalists and the right wing of religions make us all into laughing stocks. Their God of talking animals, genocidal floods and retribution has got to go. So must beliefs in fantasy, miracles and magic. These are all evil.

They also do much harm to their own fellow adherents.

African witches and Jesus

Jesus Camp 1of 3
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=48b_1185215493

Death to Gays.

For evil to grow my friend, all good people need do is nothing. Fight literalism when you can. It is your duty to our fellow man.

Regards
DL

[struggle4progress]

11. "Gnostic" may not be a very precise term. Some texts called "gnostic" are very interesting:

the so-called Gospel of Thomas is an example

Other texts are simply bizarre, as anyone can verify by reviewing translations of the Nag Hammadi finds

The "gnostic" texts of Nag Hammadi emphasize an elaborate cosmology apparently in the tradition of the then-popular secret mystery societies of the Middle East, and it is quite a misrepresentation to claim these texts represent any communist, feminist or progressive tendency: they actual represent a free mish-mash of then-current ideas, not all of which arose from the Jewish tradition, and the process by which they arose might be compared to the fairly loose evolution of so-called "New Age" ideas in our time

Since the gnostics were already hiding their texts away in caves shortly after the Roman destruction of Jerusalem, several hundred years before the Christian community had any official standing (and even before all the currently accepted gospels were written), it requires an imaginative view of history to claim that the Christians "decimated" the gnostics or that the dark ages and later the inquisition were consequences of such a supposed "decimination"

[Greatest I am]

22. Bible

All one has to do is follow the history of the bible, its writing that is, to see the Catholic Church murdering and burning it's own as well as other belief systems.

They make the other genocidal maniacs of that day look like angels.

This is long but quite enlightening.

Christian, then Catholic, has been historically shown to be murderers not only of bodies but of free though. Denial is not the intelligent position to take.

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Regards
DL

[struggle4progress]

25. Freke has a master's degree in philosophy and makes his living from New Age spirituality seminars

He has no particular historical training

[longship]

12. I don't know.

[cbayer]

13. Lol, best answer so far!

[riqster]

29. Or....I don't "Gno".

[trotsky]

14. Heretic! Heretic!

Burn him!!!

[rug]

15. What do you mean by this?

These were Jews don’t forget.

[Greatest I am]

23. Rough

The Jews of that day were accustomed of thinking of women as chattel.

You could have as many as you could afford. There was also duty involved in taking on more chattel.
From ones family for instance.

Regards
DL

[mr blur]

16. "the superior Catholic theology"?

It'll never catch on. Gotta have people to look down on and feel morally superior to, surely - isn't that how religion works?

[rug]

17. Gee, looking around the posts in here, I'd have to say that's how the oppositite opinion works.

[Greatest I am]

24. Inf

Then the world can stay with the morally inferior Abrahamic cults.

And keep oppressing women.

Regards
DL

[Warpy]

26. It's obvious why the Gnostic Gospels were deleted from the bible

They did very little to uphold the top-down governance of Empire.

[edhopper]

27. Inferior, superior

it's all angels dancing on pins.

As Roger sang, "meet the new boss, same as the old boss."

[riqster]

28. Superior? Did someone say Superior?

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