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Meet the Muslim-American Leaders the FBI and NSA Have Been Spying OnBy Glenn Greenwald and Murtaza Hussain
The National Security Agency and FBI have covertly monitored the emails of prominent Muslim-Americansincluding a political candidate and several civil rights activists, academics, and lawyersunder secretive procedures intended to target terrorists and foreign spies.
According to documents provided by NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden, the list of Americans monitored by their own government includes:
Faisal Gill, a longtime Republican Party operative and one-time candidate for public office who held a top-secret security clearance and served in the Department of Homeland Security under President George W. Bush;
Asim Ghafoor, a prominent attorney who has represented clients in terrorism-related cases;
Hooshang Amirahmadi, an Iranian-American professor of international relations at Rutgers University;
Agha Saeed, a former political science professor at California State University who champions Muslim civil liberties and Palestinian rights;
Nihad Awad, the executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), the largest Muslim civil rights organization in the country.
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In one 2005 document, intelligence community personnel are instructed how to properly format internal memos to justify FISA surveillance. In the place where the targets real name would go, the memo offers a fake name as a placeholder: Mohammed Raghead.
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https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/07/09/under-surveillance/
http://vimeo.com/98673951
http://vimeo.com/98667910
Ghafoor with President George W. Bush and Hillary Clinton (photos courtesy Asim Ghafoor)
Agha Saeed (Julie Plasencia/San Francisco Chronicle/Corbis)
http://vimeo.com/98686537
Hooshang Amirahmadi (Julia Cortez/AP)
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Omniscience and Religion. (Original Post)
stone space
Nov 2014
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djean111
(14,255 posts)1. Which is why I feel a contempt for the NSA and for those who aid, abet, or excuse its
pervasiveness.
stone space
(6,498 posts)2. The NSA is the largest employer of mathematicians in the world.
But, as a mathematician, I'm with Will on this.
mr blur
(7,753 posts)3. Oh, you're a mathematician?
Who knew?
Oh, you're a mathematician?
stone space
(6,498 posts)7. So, what do you think about the issue of Omniscience?
Is it something that atheists should concern ourselves with?
Or is it only a religious issue?
As an atheist, does the specter of man-made Omniscience disturb you at some level?
This would seem to me to be an issue that should strike a sensitive nerve deep within the atheist psyche.
djean111
(14,255 posts)6. Oh, that is absolute perfection. And absolutely true. And worse, I think. Thanks!!!! nt