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cbayer

(146,218 posts)
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 12:14 PM Dec 2014

Brazilian women resort to desperate measures after abortion crackdown

http://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2014/dec/11/brazil-abortion-law-women-desperate-measures

In an increasingly conservative climate, Brazilian women are risking unsafe procedures and prosecution in order to terminate pregnancies


Demonstrators demanding new laws on abortion stage a mock funeral in São Paulo. Deaths related to clandestine abortions have sparked debate in Brazil. Photograph: Rahel Patrasso/Alamy

Miriam Wells in Rio de Janeiro
Thursday 11 December 2014 13.31 GMT

It has been a bad few months for Ana Teresa Derraik, clinical director of Rio de Janeiro state’s leading public hospital for obstetric health.

In September, three women were admitted to intensive care after having corrosive chemicals injected into their uteruses. One died, one survived. The third, a 25-year-old mother of one, lost both her feet following surgery that just managed to keep her alive.

Last month, a 26-year-old patient died having undergone a similar procedure – an exceptionally dangerous attempt at clandestine abortion.

“It’s so sad,” said Derraik, who suspects the same substance was used on or by all four women. “But any investigation into what took place could result in these women being prosecuted.”

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trotsky

(49,533 posts)
1. Fascinating:
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 12:19 PM
Dec 2014
Brazil and its Congress have always been influenced by the Catholic church, but in the past two decades there has been a dramatic rise in evangelical Christian churches and the number of politicians who share their beliefs. Almost a quarter of Brazilians now identify themselves as evangelical, up from 5% in 1970.


I'm sure that's completely coincidental.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
3. Clearly religion has nothing to do with this.
Fri Dec 12, 2014, 02:40 AM
Dec 2014

Must be those pesky conservatives. Not the religious ones though. Never them.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
2. Since we're taking issue with the content of headlines this week, why not say "catholic abortion cra
Fri Dec 12, 2014, 02:40 AM
Dec 2014

ckdown"?

Because that would be true.

In an increasingly catholic conservative climate, Brazilian women are risking unsafe procedures and prosecution in order to terminate pregnancies


Fixed that for you.
 

rug

(82,333 posts)
4. I wonder if any newspaper would ever hire you.
Fri Dec 12, 2014, 06:32 AM
Dec 2014

Because that is not true.

Just read trotsky's link. The religious picture is decreasingly Catholic and increasingly Evangelistic.

Adding words, inaccurately, is as dishonest as it is incompetent.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
5. Every time I think I've accidentally left you an angle, 'you dissapoint me, Ramsay'.
Fri Dec 12, 2014, 11:23 AM
Dec 2014

Brazil:

"Roman Catholicism (64.6%)
Protestantism (22.2%)
Non religious (8%)
Other religions (5.2%)"


Yeah, I'm sure that 22% minority of the population is really the root cause here.

Oh my gosh ALMOST A QUARTER are clearly running roughshod over the catholic majority that already saw fit to make abortion illegal anyway, those poor, misunderstood, women hating assholes.

Deflect away, sir. I eagerly await your contortions this time.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
6. The only deflection is your added word.
Fri Dec 12, 2014, 03:22 PM
Dec 2014

The only contortion is your attempt to get out from under it.

To return to the actual article, as opposed to your twisted headline, it is commenting on the increase in evangelism.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
7. Which is building upon unacceptable, regressive, right wing laws already put in place by the catholi
Fri Dec 12, 2014, 03:25 PM
Dec 2014

cs.

Take away that 62% of fellow/prior travelers, and let me know what's left.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
8. Your edit remains as dishonest as it was when you typed it.
Fri Dec 12, 2014, 03:31 PM
Dec 2014

Authentic statements usually don't need explanations.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
13. We'll see who else shows up. Meanwhile, how about you explain to the 'group' what
Fri Dec 12, 2014, 03:45 PM
Dec 2014

a 22% minority can do to 'crack down' on abortion, in a country where some 60+% already made it illegal.

If the catholics are sitting on their hands, already satisfied with how much damage they've done, how does 22% make it further regressive?

Or are they all working together to attack women?

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
14. If you read the article instead of altering a title, you wouldn't have to ask.
Fri Dec 12, 2014, 03:49 PM
Dec 2014
But experts say a major crackdown in recent years on underground clinics across Brazil, accompanied by an increasingly conservative National Congress, has made a highly risky situation even more dangerous. Women appear to be resorting to ever more desperate measures.

- snip -

Brazil and its Congress have always been influenced by the Catholic church, but in the past two decades there has been a dramatic rise in evangelical Christian churches and the number of politicians who share their beliefs. Almost a quarter of Brazilians now identify themselves as evangelical, up from 5% in 1970.

Evangelical candidates gained 50% more seats in the 2010 congressional elections and 26% in October’s, now holding 83 out of 574 seats across both houses (14%).

“Extreme groups have got more organised, forming anti-abortion fronts and trying to reverse progress already made,” says Galli. “And now we have the most conservative congress since the dictatorship. The situation is very bleak.”

Time to recalbrate your biases.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
15. That's funny, that's what I would have quoted in response to your blithe pretense of non-understandi
Fri Dec 12, 2014, 04:04 PM
Dec 2014

g.

What you quoted SPECIFIES precisely my point (less than 1/4).

These 'evangelicals' have ZERO POWER without politically aligning with shit that is fully approved by that 60+% majority that already made abortion illegal. The evangelicals may be doubling down, but the catholics are supporting them, and that's where the total numbers to accomplish the destruction they intend comes from.

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