Happy "Share in the profit from horrible torture and murder" day.

[AtheistCrusader]

I was asked to start a separate thread. Enjoy the ham.

[Ohio Dem]

1. I find the ham ironic as well.

Ham to celebrate a Jew.

[pinto]

3. I'm having chili, cornbread, strawberries & cream. Watermelon punch.

Have a good one.

[AtheistCrusader]

4. I'm afraid the little pile of cheese smokies didn't survive.

[edgineered]

5. Two weeks ago today

On my way home two weeks ago stood a woman with a cardboard sign on a corner near the store. The traffic thinned out on the next block so I wheeled a quick u-ey, went back and gave her five dollars.

In this forum there is no need to say what she said afterwards. I will look for her tonight and say, "I would like to share in the profit from horrible torture and murder day" and give her 2 slices of thickly cut ham from the deli. I wonder what she will say tonight?

eta: Enjoy the ham!

[AtheistCrusader]

11. I'm guessing anger, or confusion.

[edgineered]

37. She wasn't there tonight,

it's just a guess, but perhaps the tomb-like darkness of the night had driven her to the shelter of a nearby church - things were running late for me this week.

[okasha]

12. How utterly petty.

[AtheistCrusader]

15. I think it raises a valid question about the morals and merits of the whole concept.

[okasha]

21. I think it raises an entirely different question.

He gave a hungry and probably homeless woman money for food. She thanked him as graciously as she knew how. All good.

Now, in return for that thanks, he proposes to use his position of privilege to demean and possibly frighten her. That's sadistic.

The question is, what kind of person would do that?

A second question: what kind of person would defend it?

[rug]

24. Good questions.

[AtheistCrusader]

32. What 'kind'?

[okasha]

34. That's the question I asked you.

You seem to be hesitant to answer it.

[AtheistCrusader]

35. I imagine it would be the 'kind' made of straw.

The extremely slow and easy target variety.

[okasha]

36. Back from Oz, and still no brain.

[AtheistCrusader]

38. I didn't go anywhere for lent.

Perhaps you're thinking of someone else.

[okasha]

43. Are you characterizing yourself as the slow-moving, easy target?

Very well, then. I accept your word for it.

[AtheistCrusader]

46. Being odd isn't going to provoke a rage-induced hideable post from me.

Try someone else.

[okasha]

47. You seem to be fond of making that accusation.

Lighten up. Nobody's out to get you.

[AtheistCrusader]

48. Mmm-hm. explains all the alerts

Especially the ones you have commented on.

[okasha]

49. Which alerts would those be?

And by the way, Justin isn't trying to "lure" you into Interfaith so he can ban you, either.

[AtheistCrusader]

50. He and I talked about his echo chamber.

Not really your concern. He and I agreed to disagree, which happens frequently.

[okasha]

51. Good.

So which alerts are you talking about?

[AtheistCrusader]

53. You're fully capable of looking back through your post history for the ones you've commented on.

I can think of at least three.

[okasha]

55. Sorry, I don't accumulate list of posts,

even my own, nor do I hoard screenshots for years. If you have anything, post it.

[AtheistCrusader]

57. See, that's the thing. The forum software has this neat feature where it does it for you.

[hrmjustin]

58. i am confused here, what is he claiming?

[okasha]

63. You're not alone.

I have no idea what he's referring to about alerts, either, and he won't clarify.

But he does have a weird fixation on numbers of posts in Interfaith and Prayer Circle.

[hrmjustin]

67. Yes I see. And he complains about there being low traffic but he likes to post in there and takes

an active interest. I am touched by his concern.

[AtheistCrusader]

96. You're welcome.

I do what I can.

And for the record, since you didn't bother to ask, yes, I am pissed at you for how you treated some of my friends, every time you get control of a group. You're not the first internet moderator I've encountered you know. If you think yourself coy and clever, think again.

[hrmjustin]

99. First of all the Interfaith room needs agreement to ban.

there were those who wanted to permanently ban you. I voted no because I thought at the time you did make honest efforts to stay within the sop. All four of us agreed to your one month banning.

In the prayer circle I as host will not let people who have said nasty things about religion or people of faith trash religion in that room.

[AtheistCrusader]

95. You are all too funny.

I did clarify. If you can't remember a post from this month about this subject, and you can't be bothered to look at your own posts to find it, I'm not your monkey, and I'm not going to do it for you.

[okasha]

115. Sorry, not going off on a snipe hunt.

[AtheistCrusader]

123. Snipe hunt.

A snipe hunt or fool's errand is a type of practical joke that involves experienced people making fun of credulous newcomers by giving them an impossible or imaginary task.[1] The snipe hunt may be assigned to a target as part of a process of hazing.

A snipe hunt is a specific type of "wild-goose chase", where a person embarks on an impossible search. Where a wild-goose chase may be accidental, a snipe hunt is always initiated by a second person, as a prank.

So that means I should not be able to find any posts of you replying to jury alerts on my posts then, being 'a fools errand' and an imaginary task.

Here's one.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1218&pid=186529

You can figure out the rest on your own.

(I said I wasn't going to help you, but I wanted to dispel your meritless accusation of 'snipe hunt'. Recall my comment here was "Especially the ones you have commented on.", so that's valid.)

Edit: And I see my memory was accurate; less than 30 days ago.
Sorry you weren't able to recall it. Funny too since you specified it was a 'useful alert'. Perhaps it was not useful after all.

[okasha]

125. OK.

I do remember that thread, but what I remembered about it was your comment that you'd be more restrained in the future. That's why I felt the alert was useful, a warning flag to you.You got away with calling Justin a bigot, as well as a direct "fuck you" to him. Either of those would normally have gotten a hide, and this one should have. One juror voted to leave the post because "atheists get discriminated on," rather than on the post's content.

I'm not sure why that set off a "YOU'RE OUT TO GET ME!!!!!" reaction, but whatthehell archie.

[hrmjustin]

52. my echo chamber?

[AtheistCrusader]

54. yeah, we've discussed this.

Number of threads started by hrmjustin on the front page with 0 replies; 39.
Number of threads started by hrmjustin on the front page with >5 replies; 1.
Number of threads started by anyone on the front page with >5 replies; 4.

If A&A was that inactive, I'd formally propose deleting it.

[hrmjustin]

56. Forgive me that I won't let the room just die off.

The prayer circle was dead and is not now.

[AtheistCrusader]

59. Yeah, I know. I tried creating a prayer thread to drum you up some traffic, but it appears to be

ineffective for Interfaith for some odd and incomprehensible reason.

Prayer circle is definitely not dead.

Number of threads started by hrmjustin on the front page with 0 replies; 18.
Number of threads started by hrmjustin on the front page with >5 replies; 6.
Number of threads started by anyone on the front page with >5 replies; 12.

A resounding success!

And one of them is even mine! So I did my part to help.

[hrmjustin]

60. In the future if you post in there make sure it is about prayer..

That is what the room is for.

[AtheistCrusader]

62. It was.

Though, sadly it didn't get a full 5 recs so it never made it to the DU front page, where it may have served an actual advertising purpose and garnered you some real traffic.

[hrmjustin]

64. Not really. it was a pot protest not a prayer protest.

[AtheistCrusader]

66. No, that one didn't get >5 responses.

[hrmjustin]

71. It also didn't belong there so in the future I want you to know the room is about prayer.

[AtheistCrusader]

72. Yeah, I can read.

[hrmjustin]

76. So in the future respect the sop.

[AtheistCrusader]

77. Followed it to the letter.

Nary a flying spaghetti monster in sight. Even though I'm an ordained minister.

[hrmjustin]

79. Correct me if I am wrong but I thought you said you don't believe in it.

[AtheistCrusader]

83. Belief is not a requirement to be a member in the highest standing.

[hrmjustin]

84. Whatever. it is not allowed in the room.

[AtheistCrusader]

87. Which is why I offered a totally different sort of prayer.

One from a church that brought much amusement to certain friends of yours.
A church with which I have been involved for a very long time, even though I have not yet been ordained.

[hrmjustin]

88. What church is that?

[AtheistCrusader]

91. The church of cannabis.

[hrmjustin]

93. Yes remember it has to be a prayer and if it has a trolling feel it will be locked.

[AtheistCrusader]

97. It was a prayer as that officially recognized church entails.

As I've said, I don't lie to you.

[hrmjustin]

100. Your becoming a member of this church?

[AtheistCrusader]

101. Let's see... I'd have been about 16 when I first joined. So, two decades.

[hrmjustin]

102. Do they believe in God?

[AtheistCrusader]

103. is that a requirement of prayer?

I prefer Romulan Grapefruit and Chernobyl, but hey, everyone has their own way.

[hrmjustin]

104. Not for a religion but if you are claiming to be a member and an atheist it begs further questioning

[AtheistCrusader]

105. One can be an atheist and a buddhist.

It's a state of mind, not a deity. (Though some sects of Buddhism do recognize gods that are of no import to them.)

If we are to continue to interact, I suggest you keep in mind, I approach all things from a principles-first viewpoint. If it is true of one, it must be of all, or you're just special pleading.

[hrmjustin]

107. We are not talking about Buddhism.

We are talking about the church of cannabis.

And according to Wikipedia it says they do believe in God. is that true?

[AtheistCrusader]

109. I asked if it was a requirement.

Why no answer? Was my question unclear?

[hrmjustin]

110. It depends on the religion.

But as for the coc I am asking you. You say you are a member.

[AtheistCrusader]

113. Application pending. Practices adopted long, long before the church was 'formed' officially.

[hrmjustin]

116. interesting.And who will you pray to if you say a prayer?

[AtheistCrusader]

111. (I'm going to sleep so further responses will be time-delayed.)

Just trying to be polite, since we were conversing free-form.

[hrmjustin]

112. rest well.

[AtheistCrusader]

114. Good night.

[AtheistCrusader]

69. Oh wait, I got them backwards, my mistake.

The Church of Cannabis deems the act of imbibing to be a form of prayer.

Who am I to argue?

[hrmjustin]

73. Then a member can post it.

[AtheistCrusader]

75. Oh, it has a member whitelist now? Exclusive! Swanky.

I thought atheists were on the whitelist in the 'About' page? My eyesight must be failing me.

[hrmjustin]

78. Atheists are allowed to post in there but the topic is prayer. just remember that.

[AtheistCrusader]

81. I posted a prayer.

I communed with fellow members over it as well.

What more do you want?

[hrmjustin]

61. And you can make all the snarky comments you want but at least I made an effort.

You nor your friends can take that away from me.

[AtheistCrusader]

65. I'd be lying if I said I didn't question your motives, or judgement, but I am not here to take

things away from you.

[hrmjustin]

68. My motives? do go on please.

[AtheistCrusader]

70. Go where?

[hrmjustin]

74. Please explain why you question my motives.

[AtheistCrusader]

80. Why?

Serious question.

Especially given our history in Interfaith.
You recall every thread I participated in in Interfaith on the front page had >20 posts the day you decided I 'went too far sir', when I called out a poster calling a blatantly gender segregated event as 'beautiful', because some element of it was somehow otherwise endearing? (The fact it hadn't happened before, even though the church had no legal right to refuse even if they wanted to?)

[hrmjustin]

82. Ok this is a game to you.

You want to make comments but when presed you don't really want to.

Play with someone else.

[AtheistCrusader]

85. I just answered your questions fully and perfectly honestly. Don't pretend I didn't.

[hrmjustin]

86. No you didn't.

My motives were clear.

I and the other hosts felt you went too far.

[AtheistCrusader]

89. I have answered every single direct question you've ever asked me, fully and honestly.

Though I am prone to rules gaming at times, especially for comedy value, I don't recall ever having attempted to deceive you.

[hrmjustin]

90. No I am not claiming you are a liar.

I do think you like playing games and I had enough.

[AtheistCrusader]

92. Well, that makes two of us.

[hrmjustin]

94. i don't deliberately test you.

[AtheistCrusader]

98. Ok.

[okasha]

106. It isn't a discussion group.

It's to request and offer prayer. That doesn't require a great many posts per thread.

[AtheistCrusader]

108. And yet..

[okasha]

117. But then...

[hrmjustin]

118. Games and tests.

[okasha]

119. Exactly.

Buenas noches, amigo mio. Rest well.

[hrmjustin]

120. rest well my friend!

[edgineered]

40. see post 39

[hrmjustin]

42. i read it.

[hrmjustin]

16. My God!

[AtheistCrusader]

18. Doesn't exist!

I love playing 'finish the sentence'. Great fun.

[hrmjustin]

20. I am sure. Since I am stuffed I will just agree to disagree.

[AtheistCrusader]

30. Fair enough.

[edgineered]

41. see post 39

[rug]

17. Do you enjoy using homeless people as props for anti-religious screeds?

[edgineered]

39. I am very well liked by the homeless and needy where ever I go.

In the early eighties while processing some paperwork for a prospective recruit, I called his recruiter to my office to correct a discrepancy in his enlistment kit. The address given by the recruiter was an intersection, and being a stoic a*hole at the time declared that I would not process his paperwork until an address as required by the regs was provided.

The commanding officer called me to his office, stating that he understood that I was having a problem, but that there are many good people living under bridges. He asked if I still had a problem. Since then I have not, and do what I can, how I can, and without judgement.

I seriously doubt many in this forum do as much as I do for others in need, although if throwing money at their problems is your only gauge, preach on.

[okasha]

44. "You can always tell a Halo...boy?"

[edgineered]

45. Note to self - never say, "preach on" in the presence of fEasters.

[Cartoonist]

6. Easter food

One tradition at our house was a cake in the shape of a lamb. It had no legs, a very moist cake inside, covered with a thick frosting. I think its eyes were jelly beans, or something like it.

[Warren Stupidity]

7. It seems to still be winter in new england.

But everywhere I go, people are muttering "GOT is coming".

What does that mean?

[AtheistCrusader]

9. It means zombies, knights, magic, and porn.

[Lordquinton]

22. Game of Thrones

they are so excited.

[hrmjustin]

8. Eating Lasagna right now.

[okasha]

10. Chalupas.

Flat fried tortillas heaped with refried beans, lettuce, tomato, cheese and avocado, sprinkled with pico de gallo. Splendid!

[hrmjustin]

13. Sounds great!

[okasha]

14. Is!

[rug]

19. Congratlations on the stupidest thread title of the day.

[okasha]

23. Of the week, at least.

Welcome back, rug!

[rug]

26. Thanks, okasha! It's like walking into a bar at 8 a.m. before it's had time to air out.

[hrmjustin]

25. Lol. Welcome back Rug!

[rug]

27. A happy Easter to you, Justin!

[hrmjustin]

28. Happy Easter!

[shedevil69taz]

29. I am pretty sure Easter

celebrates his resurrection...now to get there he had to die...in a horrible horrible way...

[AtheistCrusader]

31. Right, it's about celebrating profiting from that murder.

[rexcat]

124. He did not have to die a horrible horrible way...

but that is what the writers decided would sell. Of course those who wrote the "sacred" texts of the new testaments wrote them 80+ years after Jesus died. In my opinion, when you are dealing with second or third hand stories it is probably not very accurate and more than likely very embellished.

[shedevil69taz]

129. Crucification was actually a pretty common way

to execute people during that time period...

[beam me up scottie]

33. Such a beautiful story.

The flogging, the blood and gore, how they revel in the violence and love to share it with the little ones every anniversary.

Makes me feel all something inside.

[edgineered]

122. just skimmed through the links, um, recipe

do they perchance liken dipping kiddie's fingers into the batter to sticking one's hand in an open wound?

just kidding bmus, they couldn't dare - could they?

[F4lconF16]

126. There's hope for the kid yet!

What do they see? If they are like most little ones they won’t see anything and they will be amazed the marshmallow isn’t there. This is when you liken it to when Jesus rose and the tomb was left empty except for his linen cloth. However, be careful they might be like my little pistol and say “Oh, the marshmallows melted and they aren’t there anymore.” There was absolutely no amazement on her part.

That cracked me up--um, yeah mom, they melted. Did Jesus melt too? Good for her.

[beam me up scottie]

127. That's exactly what I thought!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1230&pid=38388

Mom may be raising a little atheist.

[longship]

121. Woke up to three inches of new snow this morning.

I thought we were done with that shit.

But watched The Life of Brian with my morning coffee. (And cast off my shoes!)

Trapped by snow, I had a yummy chicken salad sandwich at lunch. Big pork chop with veggies and rice for dinner. Yummy.

Peeps for dessert, washed down with a rather large Manhattan. hic!

The best to you AC.

[guillaumeb]

128. no ham for those of us who are vegetarian

but free range chocolate rabbits are allowed.