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Related: About this forumWhat is a "falsely universalist ideology"?
They were called out by the Roman Catholic pope at the UN:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/social-issues/transcript-pope-franciss-speech-to-the-un-general-assembly/2015/09/25/3dea72e8-6382-11e5-b38e-06883aacba64_story.html
Now, many would see the Catholic church as a "universalist ideology" - more or less by the definition of 'catholic', and 'church', and also by its structure and actions. So why did Francis claim other universalist ideologies are 'false', while presumably accepting his own as 'true'?
Are Catholics meant to see any other ideology that claim to have universal applicability as 'false'?
NeoGreen
(4,031 posts)..."My god is the True® universal god for all that are the best of humanity. Your god is just a puny faker who's only claim to fame is the ability to lift a special hammer and kill giants...or something like that..."
Plus I think the language in the statement is not only directed at other religions but also at the heart of the US Constitution: that all (wo)men are equal, and that power is derived from the people, not from (so called) divine authority. Both concepts are anathemas to the catholic church with their manufactured idea of sin and the useful idea of divine right.
The catholic church will only truly be happy if the Enlightenment's experiment with Democracy fails and we return to church monarchies which are subjugated/determined/controlled by divine authority (i.e. the church).
trotsky
(49,533 posts)It does sound a bit like the old "One True Church" nonsense rearing its ugly head once again.
edhopper
(33,575 posts)He is praising the UN and saying the Catholic Church should and does always support it.
I don't think he was talking about other religions. It is not in his interest to point to atrocities by religions.
He says "falsely universalist" Obviously he doesn't think the Church is false, others might disagree.
I think he'd say neoliberalism is another, and capitalism in general is one.
We preach diversity, but we usually only mean a very narrow kind of diversity: We must all think the same, even as we are allowed slight differences in trivialities like food and language. We say that we're all alike, but when push comes to shove we actually mean everybody's really like us (if they'd just stop and think about it). We all want the same things and have the same values and, unlike (R) that put everything in dollar terms, we put everything in dollar terms; meanwhile, some decent research has shown that (R) and (D) tend to have differently stuctured and valenced value systems.
It's why we're blindsided by things like Russia and Hungary, by the failure of the Arab Spring and by the failure of China to embrace the "correct" values that we know they want because, well, they're sort of our values.
Yorktown
(2,884 posts)Not advocating greedy capitalism here.
Just saying it can be argued capitalism is strictly a tool. Wiki:
Then the tool is used in different political ways. Wiki again:
Yorktown
(2,884 posts)But then again, as you say, I don't think he thinks religions are false.
And, as you say, others might disagree.
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)Clearly the most accurate interpretation of what he meant.