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Cartoonist

(7,316 posts)
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 07:47 PM Jan 2016

An interesting article about the misinformed

The article is about politics, but it could be applied to religion as well.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-supporters-appear-to-be-misinformed-not-uninformed/

Because an informed citizenry is believed to be an essential element to a functioning democracy, political scientists have long been interested in what Americans know about politics. For the most part, scholars have found that many U.S. citizens don’t have basic information about politics and don’t hold consistent opinions on policy matters. More recently, scholarly interest has turned to a more nuanced understanding of what being politically informed means.

In 2000, James Kuklinski and other political scientists at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign established an important distinction: American citizens with incorrect information can be divided into two groups, the misinformed and the uninformed. The difference between the two is stark. Uninformed citizens don’t have any information at all, while those who are misinformed have information that conflicts with the best evidence and expert opinion. As Kuklinski and his colleagues established, in the U.S., the most misinformed citizens tend to be the most confident in their views and are also the strongest partisans. These folks fill the gaps in their knowledge base by using their existing belief systems. Once these inferences are stored into memory, they become “indistinguishable from hard data,” Kuklinski and his colleagues found.

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Sounds like some DU members who post in this forum.

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An interesting article about the misinformed (Original Post) Cartoonist Jan 2016 OP
That gratuitous slam at the end only can only undermine your credibility. nt Xipe Totec Jan 2016 #1
Perhaps a slam, but very accurate. cleanhippie Jan 2016 #2
I doubt you realize which targets are most accurately hit. rug Jan 2016 #5
I doubt he realizes he's been wounded. Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 #15
I doubt you realize what's been said. rug Jan 2016 #17
Struck a nerve, eh? Cartoonist Jan 2016 #3
Not at all. It's not atheist credibility that's in question here. nt mr blur Jan 2016 #13
I haven't seen so much misinformation about religion posted as in the Religion Group. rug Jan 2016 #4
Religion is misinformation Cartoonist Jan 2016 #7
And it keeps piling up. rug Jan 2016 #8
Facts are real Cartoonist Jan 2016 #10
Facts are incomplete. rug Jan 2016 #12
Well it is mostly atheists and anti-theists that post here now, Leontius Jan 2016 #6
Why is that? mr blur Jan 2016 #14
It's more likely people prefer not to associate with obnoxious posters. rug Jan 2016 #18
They're not even hiding out in their echo chambers Rob H. Jan 2016 #21
Perhaps you ought to take a look at who the current most prolific poster is in this forum? Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 #16
I have noticed a significant drop in the number of cartoons posted in here. rug Jan 2016 #19
It's not about the number of posts per poster it's about the number of posters. Leontius Jan 2016 #20
I see some people don't have mirrors Cartoonist Jan 2016 #9
Addendum Cartoonist Jan 2016 #11
 

rug

(82,333 posts)
5. I doubt you realize which targets are most accurately hit.
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 09:16 PM
Jan 2016
the most misinformed citizens tend to be the most confident in their views and are also the strongest partisans
 

rug

(82,333 posts)
12. Facts are incomplete.
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 11:52 PM
Jan 2016

In any event, the question of misinformation concerns accuracy.

Half the shit posted in here about religion is inaccurate.

And that has not a thing to do with religious beliefs. It's basic sociology.

What compounds the error is the eagerness with which it is posted to advance an anti-religious agenda. You make no point by constructing strawmen to burn.

 

mr blur

(7,753 posts)
14. Why is that?
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 08:19 AM
Jan 2016

Because the theists prefer to hide away in echo chambers where nothing is ever questioned?

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
18. It's more likely people prefer not to associate with obnoxious posters.
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 01:18 PM
Jan 2016

The noxiousness in here has little to do with belief or nonbelief and everything to do with behavior.

I do notice, however, a drop in posting by some antitheists in here. For some reason they prefer their own echo chamber than engaging in here.

Rob H.

(5,351 posts)
21. They're not even hiding out in their echo chambers
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 09:05 PM
Jan 2016

I'm sure someone will be along any second to explain how that's all the fault of those mean ol' atheists, too.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
16. Perhaps you ought to take a look at who the current most prolific poster is in this forum?
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 09:33 AM
Jan 2016

Oh wait, never mind. See the op for why facts are irrelevant.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
19. I have noticed a significant drop in the number of cartoons posted in here.
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 01:20 PM
Jan 2016

Maybe people are starting to prefer actual facts to actual trolling.

Good to see you posting again, warren. I was starting to worry.

 

Leontius

(2,270 posts)
20. It's not about the number of posts per poster it's about the number of posters.
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 07:39 PM
Jan 2016

The ratio of believers to non-believers is getting quite small as believers just give this place a pass. That is the relevant fact.

Cartoonist

(7,316 posts)
11. Addendum
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 10:17 PM
Jan 2016

From the article:
Furthermore, in 2010, political scientists Brendan Nyhan and Jason Reifler found that when misinformed citizens are told that their facts are wrong, they often cling to their opinions even more strongly with what is known as defensive processing, or the “backfire effect.”
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