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Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:50 AM Jun 2016

Pope scraps abuse tribunal for negligent bishops


VATICAN CITY — Pope Francis on Saturday scrapped his proposed tribunal to prosecute bishops who covered up for pedophile priests after it ran into opposition and instead clarified legal procedures to remove them if the Vatican finds they were negligent.

The new procedures sought to answer longstanding demands by survivors of abuse that the Vatican hold bishops accountable for botching abuse cases. Victims have long accused bishops of covering up for pedophiles, moving rapists from parish to parish rather than reporting them to police — and suffering no consequences.

But the new law was immediately criticized by survivors of abuse as essentially window dressing since there were already ways to investigate and dismiss bishops for wrongdoing — they were just rarely used against bishops who failed to protect their flocks from pedophiles.

Analysts suggested the new law was much ado about very little.

‘‘There is nothing breaking here: The congregations could already do that,’’ said Kurt Martens, professor of canon law at The Catholic University of America.

He said what is significant about the new law is that it makes no mention of the original proposal for the tribunal, which would have treated negligence as a crime and prosecuted it as such.

‘‘Does that mean the tribunal isn’t going to come because there was too much opposition?’’ he asked.

The main US victims’ group, SNAP, said it was ‘‘extraordinarily skeptical’’ that the new procedures would amount to any wave of dismissals, since popes have always had the power to oust bishops but haven’t wielded it.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/world/2016/06/04/pope-scraps-abuse-tribunal-for-negligent-bishops/z9hktjoNq68obArQ0eC8eN/story.html
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Pope scraps abuse tribunal for negligent bishops (Original Post) Warren Stupidity Jun 2016 OP
The tribunal was bullshit (no surprize there) edhopper Jun 2016 #1
SNAP agrees with you. rug Jun 2016 #2
Yes edhopper Jun 2016 #3
There is a difference. rug Jun 2016 #4
Perhaps, edhopper Jun 2016 #5
I will too. rug Jun 2016 #6
agreed edhopper Jun 2016 #7
"popes have always had the power to oust bishops but haven’t wielded it" trotsky Jun 2016 #8
So it seems edhopper Jun 2016 #9
Given the proven history (and continued behavior)... trotsky Jun 2016 #10

edhopper

(33,579 posts)
1. The tribunal was bullshit (no surprize there)
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 03:54 PM
Jun 2016

Last edited Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:28 PM - Edit history (1)

but i don't know if this is a good sign or bad?

edhopper

(33,579 posts)
3. Yes
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:30 PM
Jun 2016

but because they also thought the tribunal was bullshit, as did Warren.

The question now is what comes in it's place, if nothing or an equally meaningless measure, then it's not a good thing.

If something more robust, then it is.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
4. There is a difference.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:33 PM
Jun 2016

Unlike SNAP, warren doesn't think the RCC can ever do anything right. I would use another word but I'll polite and simply call it irrationality.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
8. "popes have always had the power to oust bishops but haven’t wielded it"
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:10 AM
Jun 2016

Including the current one. All talk, no action, despite high-profile abusers and enablers living the good life at the Vatican.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
10. Given the proven history (and continued behavior)...
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 10:31 AM
Jun 2016

of that corrupt and morally bankrupt organization, why on earth should we?

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