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trotsky

(49,533 posts)
Mon May 8, 2017, 11:40 AM May 2017

Meet the modern-day Pagans who celebrate the ancient gods

http://www.salon.com/2017/05/07/meet-the-modern-day-pagans-who-celebrate-the-ancient-gods_partner/

The priest raises his arms, palms upturned. “Lord Taranis, hear our prayer!” he bellows, voice bouncing off the stone pillars and into the darkening fields beyond. The fire’s crackle fills the stone circle. We stare through the flames, past the boundary of our sacred space, to the patina of white looming over the white sky — Mount Adams, close and huge.

It is high summer, and we are at White Mountain Druid Sanctuary in southern Washington State. Under the immensity of the mountain, a couple of ramshackle barns stick up from the hayfields. Our priest, a straight-backed, snow-haired man, is delivering a homily on the attributes of the thunder god. Taranis, a powerful thunderbolt-tossing deity, is being honored at today’s solstice celebration because of his association with light, weather and sky.

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More and more in America, religion is something people choose (or don’t), rather than inherit. According to a 2015 study by the Pew Research Center, “As the Millennial generation enters adulthood, its members display much lower levels of religious affiliation, including less connection with Christian churches, than older generations.” However, the report also finds that many millennials remain spiritual in a broad sense, expressing “wonder at the universe” and an overall feeling of “gratitude” and “well-being.” About 1.5% of the American population identifies as “other faiths,” including “Unitarians, those who identify with Native American religions, Pagans, Wiccans, New Agers, deists, Scientologists, pantheists, polytheists, Satanists and Druids, to name just a few.” Druids will appreciate being listed separately from Wiccans (self-described “benevolent witches”), but both fall under the umbrella of neo-paganism. Almost half of New Agers — a larger category that includes shamans, goddess-worshippers, and possibly your mom’s psychic — are of the millennial generation.

Many druid practitioners are reacting to a childhood religion they found inadequate or oppressive. They speak of their practice as inclusive and pluralistic, but also self-define as rejects, misfits and seekers, drawing a protective boundary around their own otherness. In one sense, Druidry is very old school – traditional and nostalgic for a way of relating to nature that most modern humans have lost. However, it is also willfully new. Druid rituals enact something not handed down or inherited, but deliberately created. “There just isn’t enough preserved out there to actually recreate Irish paganism,” Thomas explains. “One can do a nice superficial gloss, but we have no idea what any rituals actually looked like.”
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Meet the modern-day Pagans who celebrate the ancient gods (Original Post) trotsky May 2017 OP
Polytheistic religions are less ridiculous than the Voltaire2 May 2017 #1
Right - basically humans with all our failings, but with super powers. trotsky May 2017 #2
I am a neopagan lisby May 2017 #3
When you claim or suggest that 'there is more than we can perceive' AtheistCrusader May 2017 #4
Ironic. It seems that you yourself are "shaming" those who don't share your beliefs. trotsky May 2017 #6
Defenitely more interesting characters, imo -nt Bradical79 May 2017 #5

Voltaire2

(13,027 posts)
1. Polytheistic religions are less ridiculous than the
Mon May 8, 2017, 12:28 PM
May 2017

supposedly more advanced monotheistic ones, in my opinion. Generally the earlier gods were not Omni-anything, had all sorts of flaws, and weren't even immortal, or at least they could be killed.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
2. Right - basically humans with all our failings, but with super powers.
Mon May 8, 2017, 01:21 PM
May 2017

It's a much better fit with the world we see - where sometimes the "bad guys" win, or shit happens for no reason - than traditional Christian mythology can muster, that's for sure.

lisby

(408 posts)
3. I am a neopagan
Mon May 8, 2017, 01:27 PM
May 2017

and I worship any god that of the Light and love. New gods, old gods, metaphorical gods, and it harms no one. It is a beautiful and peaceful path.

Just putting in my 2 cents before the shaming of those who believe that there is more to heaven and Earth and the universe than we can perceive.

Peace.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
4. When you claim or suggest that 'there is more than we can perceive'
Mon May 8, 2017, 03:58 PM
May 2017

you are doing two things;

1. Acknowledging you cannot possibly know that, since you cannot by definition perceive it.
2. Lending credence to the claims made by others about 'Supernatural Things And What They Want Of Us(TM)', even though they may not share your preference for Light or Love, and in fact, may marinate in and work to spread the opposite, Hate and Darkness.

As a believer, you are sharing the not-so-altruistic or all-loving person's beliefs in that there is a playing field upon which these good or bad characters may exist. That you prefer light and love is immaterial. You lend credence to their claims by accepting the playing field upon which they stand, and that can very well lead to harm.


As a non-believer, I deny them even that. There is no light or dark to worship. No playing field they can share.

We generate our own light, our own love, our own darkness, and our own hate. It is real. It can be perceived. It has consequences. It is up to us to choose. Supernatural externalities just defer blame, and give cover.

Totally applaud your choice for light and love, but I hope that you find it is within you, and thus; You.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
6. Ironic. It seems that you yourself are "shaming" those who don't share your beliefs.
Tue May 9, 2017, 02:55 PM
May 2017

Do you think people reject belief in gods and/or the supernatural merely because they can't perceive them?

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