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Related: About this forumGood news: Justin Bieber Canceled His World Tour So He Could Spend More Time with Jesus
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2017/07/25/justin-bieber-canceled-his-world-tour-so-he-could-spend-more-time-with-jesus/Justin Bieber pulled the plug on his Purpose tour because he rededicated his life to Christ sources connected to Hillsong Church tell TMZ.
Bieber has been virtually joined at the hip with Hillsong pastor Carl Lentz over the last few months including at a huge church event in Australia but were told Lentz did not advocate for cancelling the tour.
Lentz is considered a cool pastor by many because hes routinely seen in leather jacket and skinny jeans, surrounded by celebrities. That last bit cant be understated. How many other pastors get a profile in GQ?
Bieber gets closer to Jesus, and the world gets less of his music. Good news all around!
DBoon
(22,363 posts)Wasn't crucifixion enough punishment?
SHRED
(28,136 posts)Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)You can bet Lentz does not want his latest convert to stop the gravy train.
Next for the Beebs, a Christian Pop album?
underpants
(182,788 posts)LonePirate
(13,417 posts)He would be better served by faking a medical condition like exhaustion than tossing out this bs.
trotsky
(49,533 posts)MineralMan
(146,288 posts)That would be fine with me.
msongs
(67,401 posts)Igel
(35,300 posts)So it's hard, but certainly not impossible.
I mean, if you believe Christ.
My mother used to tell me money was the root of all evil.
Then I became literate and found out she was saying, "... money was the root of all evil" and omitted "love of."
Glorfindel
(9,729 posts)English: The root of all evil is cupidity.
Cupidity: greed for money or possessions.
synonyms: greed, avarice, avariciousness, acquisitiveness, covetousness, rapacity, materialism, Mammonism; informal:
money-grubbing. "He did not really see her cupidity until they'd been married for several years."
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I, myself, do not love money, but I certainly do admire many of the things it can purchase.
Voltaire2
(13,023 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)What is your source?
Are you projecting because you too are a fan?
Voltaire2
(13,023 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)If you had qualified your statement that would have been different. And who decides what is good?
Are you the decider?
NeoGreen
(4,031 posts)...
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)Well, it's just the religion turn in he career turnaround. Completely scripted.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Have you considered that some may find this bad news?
Should you not say that in your personal opinion this is good news?
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)Some may feel it's not, but they are objectively wrong.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Are you the one who decides what music and which entertainers are good?
What are your criteria for arriving at this judgement?
When you said that Bieber gets closer to Jesus, were you sincere in your statement?
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)just look it up. Including getting into fights with fans, and drunk driving (for which he got a slap on the wrist) If he were a female celebrity his wealth would have been court ordered into the hands of his father by now.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)based on what exactly?
trotsky
(49,533 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Why you gotta diss the Beebs, trotsky?
EvilAL
(1,437 posts)no_hypocrisy
(46,088 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)From its pedophile founder to gay conversion 'therapy' it's obvious that Bieber joined a deranged cult. The Daily Beast did some research and what they found was pretty disturbing:
If I were to write you a story about the Australian Pentecostal mega-church Hillsong, then I would usually begin with a visit. I would line up with some of the 8,000 other lost souls on any given Sunday and tell you about the fashion vibe and about the rockingbut not too rockingmusical score thats central to the worship. Id write about millennials and celebrities coming together in the heathenish den that is New York City to literally raise their hands up to praise Jesus and perhaps take a selfie.
But really, there have been enough of these types of stories since Hillsong hit American shores in 2010. Theyve been written down or recorded on video by giddy reporters eager to document this seeming paradox of a churcha house of worship with a conservative theology that is led by and filled with millennials and hipsters. Everyone from The The New York Times to VICE has covered the scene inside Hillsongs newest U.S. outposts in New York and Los Angelesled by pastors Carl Lentz and Joel Houston, and Ben Houston respectively. Its the church of Justin Bieber and Hailey Baldwin, Kendall Jenner and Kevin Durant. Where Sunday services surge with pop music and concert lighting and Silent Night is sung by midriff-baring flapper girls. Where a tattooed, mohawked preacher (who naturally lives in Williamsburg) wears a leather jacket in the pulpit and delivers sermons named after Bell Biv DeVoe songs. That would be Hillsong NYCs leader, Carl Lentzwho is not your typical pastor, according to reporters at ABC News and the Associated Press and CNN, who have all written this exact sentence. Headlines have dubbed Lentz a Rock Star Pastor.
But the story Im going to write is a different story, one with a more complex narrative beyond the celebrity baptisms and Broadway-style Christmas pageants. Its a story that has even been well-documented. Its a story of a church that has struggled with a shattering pedophile scandal. Of a church that has a long history of rejecting and even self-admittedly damaging its gay and lesbian members. A church with an ultraconservative record on gay marriage and abortion. A church whose coffers brim with millions in tax-free donations, with little accountability over where the money goes. This is the story thats left out of breathless media reports about Hillsongs preachers in YSL motorcycle jackets and all the glitzy good times at the glittering Church of the Stars.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/sex-abuse-and-gay-conversion-therapy-the-dark-past-of-justin-biebers-megachurch-hillsong
trotsky
(49,533 posts)His beliefs are clearly very important to him and serve as a powerful motivation.
Zambero
(8,964 posts)How on earth could they have allowed low hanging fruit like JB to get away???