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MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
Sun Mar 4, 2018, 02:06 PM Mar 2018

On Sunday mornings, I wake up to hear the last five minutes

of The Lutheran Hour. Last week, the old guy who often speaks on that radio program, a Missouri Synod Lutheran pastor, said, "the apostles who wrote the gospels were eye-witnesses to the last days of Jesus."

The reality is that none of the authors of the four Gospels were contemporaries of the historical Jesus. None of them. There are no copies of manuscripts of those Gospels that are contemporaneous. I was a little shocked that Pastor Kenneth Klaus would make such a statement. It is simply incorrect, but people hear and believe such things when spoken by people like him.

We have only second and third-hand accounts of the man people believe was the Messiah. Stories told later. Are they even true? Nobody knows. And yet, billions believe them to be true, which is evidence of nothing more than their belief.

How odd that seems, really, to me.

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On Sunday mornings, I wake up to hear the last five minutes (Original Post) MineralMan Mar 2018 OP
Your post really perplexed me SCantiGOP Mar 2018 #1
I listen to radio preachers, sometimes Mariana Mar 2018 #2
My clock radio is tuned to WCCO, AM830. MineralMan Mar 2018 #3
off the subject, but do you ever listen to KTNF 950 AM? rurallib Mar 2018 #5
I don't. My interest for radio is only in hearing news briefs. MineralMan Mar 2018 #6
As a very young man, I sometimes suffered from insomnia. MineralMan Mar 2018 #4
I listen to local thumper radio frequently.. Permanut Mar 2018 #7

SCantiGOP

(13,869 posts)
1. Your post really perplexed me
Sun Mar 4, 2018, 02:26 PM
Mar 2018

Why in the world would you, an avowed atheist, have your alarm set to wake up to The Lutheran Hour?

Mariana

(14,856 posts)
2. I listen to radio preachers, sometimes
Sun Mar 4, 2018, 02:34 PM
Mar 2018

when I'm in the car. Religion affects all of our lives. It's interesting and useful to hear what's being taught to those who do believe.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
3. My clock radio is tuned to WCCO, AM830.
Sun Mar 4, 2018, 02:39 PM
Mar 2018

On Sunday at 6:30 AM The Lutheran Hour is just winding up, and runs over two minutes, ending at 6:32. It is followed by the CBS morning news brief. 6 days a week, I wake up to the national and local news for 10 minutes. Sunday, I guess I get the "Good News" from The Lutheran Hour. It does me no harm, and sometimes gives me a topic for DU on a slow Sunday morning.

When I was just a lad, the radio station that was constantly tuned in broadcast the Lutheran Vespers just about the time I went to sleep. The rest of the time it was a popular music station. That program was recorded by the ELCA, a far more progressive denomination than the Missouri Synod of the Lutheran Church. I don't suppose any of that harmed me, really.

By the way, I am not an "avowed" atheist. I've taken no vows at all in that regard. I am just a plain, old, garden variety atheist. This is, of course, just a play on words. I do know the meaning of "avowed."

rurallib

(62,411 posts)
5. off the subject, but do you ever listen to KTNF 950 AM?
Sun Mar 4, 2018, 02:43 PM
Mar 2018

I listen to Bradblog (7AM Tues- Fri) during the week on my computer radio

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
6. I don't. My interest for radio is only in hearing news briefs.
Sun Mar 4, 2018, 02:46 PM
Mar 2018

During the day, I'm working, and I do not have a radio on in my office. I don't enjoy political talk format radio in any case. I get plenty of political discussion right here.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
4. As a very young man, I sometimes suffered from insomnia.
Sun Mar 4, 2018, 02:40 PM
Mar 2018

The sure remedy was to listen to radio evangelists on XERB, a Mexican radio station. Within five minutes, I was sound asleep.

Permanut

(5,602 posts)
7. I listen to local thumper radio frequently..
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 12:21 AM
Mar 2018

More so now that certain elements of evangelical Christianity - I think of them as the cult wing - have joined in an unholy alliance with the gun nuts and billionaires to literally take over this country. I want to know what they're up to. They are saying (Barbara Carmack from Colorado, among others) that Trump was sent to us by God, and we need to pray for him because he's so wonderful. Also raves about the "deep state" and the "shadow government", whatever the hell those are.

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