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MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 12:27 PM Dec 2018

Priests Caught Abusing Boys Switch to Scouting?

So, here's a strange twist. If you get caught as a priest sexually abusing children, you can switch to being a Boy Scout leader and go right on doing it? How odd this seems to me, but, here's the story:

https://www.abqjournal.com/1256546/boy-scouts-accused-of-negligence-in-abuse-lawsuit-involving-priests.html

Boy Scouts accused of negligence in abuse lawsuit involving priests

Two former Albuquerque priests alleged to have participated in “sex parties” with children in the 1990s gained access to boys in another arena – by becoming Boy Scout leaders, according to a new lawsuit.

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The lawsuit filed against the Boy Scouts and its New Mexico nonprofit organization contends that then-Catholic priests Robert Malloy and Ronald Bruckner were leaders in an officially sanctioned Boy Scout troop that operated out of Our Lady of Assumption parish through a charter with the Archdiocese of Santa Fe.

Both Bruckner and Malloy are on the Archdiocese of Santa Fe’s list of priests credibly accused of sexual abuse. Their names surfaced in a recent lawsuit that alleges the two took children to sex parties that were sometimes filmed.

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The case against the Boy Scouts alleges that the organization was negligent because it “knew or had reason to know that Malloy and Bruckner had abused boys in their care at a time prior to, or during the time the plaintiff in the case was in their troop.”


More of this story at the link above...
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Priests Caught Abusing Boys Switch to Scouting? (Original Post) MineralMan Dec 2018 OP
So this is why "Boy" was dropped from the name... snapsnap Dec 2018 #1
That has nothing to do with this. MineralMan Dec 2018 #2
The Boy Scouts seem to have learned a few lessons the RCC has not Major Nikon Dec 2018 #3
Yes they have. MineralMan Dec 2018 #4
Not to mention future lawsuits Major Nikon Dec 2018 #5
The BSA's history hasn't been so good. They do seem to MineralMan Dec 2018 #7
Seems to me that there should also be mandatory background checks for anyone rurallib Dec 2018 #6
Most organizations do such checks these days. MineralMan Dec 2018 #8
If you apply to be a Cub or Boy Scout leader Igel Dec 2018 #11
Thanks - very interesting rurallib Dec 2018 #12
I have done background checks for years for any cpamomfromtexas Dec 2018 #9
Predators always hunt for their prey. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #10
So THAT's why they don't allow atheists! Iggo Dec 2018 #13

snapsnap

(4 posts)
1. So this is why "Boy" was dropped from the name...
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 12:28 PM
Dec 2018

so that the BSA can now pipeline little girls to the Catholic church to be abused.

Major Nikon

(36,818 posts)
3. The Boy Scouts seem to have learned a few lessons the RCC has not
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 12:35 PM
Dec 2018

They are still going to be dealing with lawsuits for years over past negligence. However, they have made significant policy changes regarding screening of leaders, education of members, and rules about reporting and contact with scouts.

MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
7. The BSA's history hasn't been so good. They do seem to
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 12:43 PM
Dec 2018

be trying to change things, though. I've never been a bit supporter of scouting. It always seemed too military-like for me. A lot of Boy Scout troops have been historically sponsored by churches, too, so they've had problems with excluding non-Christians over the years.

rurallib

(62,387 posts)
6. Seems to me that there should also be mandatory background checks for anyone
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 12:40 PM
Dec 2018

who will be working with children. I do not believe there are now.
This would so simply logical.

MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
8. Most organizations do such checks these days.
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 12:44 PM
Dec 2018

The ones that don't are likely to face serious problems down the road. Now that such sexual assaults are more visible, tolerance for them has decreased to near zero.

Igel

(35,282 posts)
11. If you apply to be a Cub or Boy Scout leader
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 08:43 PM
Dec 2018

you have to be fingerprinted so they can run a background check on you before you're approved for doing anything involving kids.

Much like being a teacher.

If a matter is handled internally, whether some priest boffing a pre-pubescent boy or embezzling money, that won't turn up on a background check if the guy wants to be a youth leader, teacher, or bookkeeper/financial manager--unless the background check includes talking to past employers or references. Even then, if it's kept confidential that may not come up during the phone check.

cpamomfromtexas

(1,245 posts)
9. I have done background checks for years for any
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 12:49 PM
Dec 2018

Adult that stepped foot on property of any of my scout camps. I was then inspected every year to make sure all background checks were documented. That and all the myriad if other state inspectors, national inspectors etcetera.

This is not new for the scouts.

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