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Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 11:39 AM Mar 2013

Why no discussion of the Pope's rejection of Liberation Theology.

Great and wise theologians in the Religion Group have indicated that Liberation Theology is the standard now for what is Christian theology and yet the newest pope has soundly rejected it. How does that mesh with the views of what Christianity is within the Religion Group?

And I really don't understand why everyone has their sphincter tingling because this guy is not European (well, his parents actually immigrated from Italy so let's not pretend this guy is really Hispanic) and he seems to truly feel for the poor. This guy is clearly just as homophobic and sexist as any other RCC leader. If we elected a President in the US that had this guy's political views, DU would be declaring him an asshole. No question in my mind. But this guy seems to get a pass. Don't get it. Well, I do get it, but it pisses me off to see Progressives do that.

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Cleita

(75,480 posts)
1. Weird because St. Francis of Assisi, whose name the new Pope took, is probably a
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 11:44 AM
Mar 2013

founding member of that kind of view.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
7. I found this:
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 12:24 PM
Mar 2013
Second, the choice of name reveals much about a new pope's state of mind as he steps out onto the balcony to address the world as pontifex. He chose his name, his spokesman revealed, in honor of St. Francis of Assisi, one of the great saints in Catholic history. Francis was the son of a cloth merchant who became a kind of living saint during his lifetime. He preached and practiced radical poverty, founded a new way of living a life in the church, embraced the presence of God in all living things, and left behind a vibrant (if sometimes divided) order named after him. These friars of St. Francis took vows and lived by a set of rules that Francis drew up, but were supposed to travel and preach to all. Cardinal Bergoglio embodied a kind of exemplary simplicity in his own life, riding the bus instead of in a limousine, living in a simple apartment instead of a palace, and cooking for himself. While this is a far cry from Francis' poverty, Bergoglio never lived as a grand prince of the Church. A pope named after St. Francis of Assisi might well focus on questions of social justice, poverty, and personal piety, as well as environmental justice.


http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/03/what-the-name-francis-i-means-for-the-modern-church/274015/

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
14. No mention of that in the Wiki that I can see.
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 01:58 PM
Mar 2013

His father was, and was killed when Francis Xavier was still young.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
15. You are probably right. There was mention of a soldier in there
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 02:01 PM
Mar 2013

somewhere back when I had to study the lives of saints and that was more than fifty years ago.

rrneck

(17,671 posts)
2. The culture wars are rarely a pitched battle.
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 11:48 AM
Mar 2013

But there's lots of guerrilla actions, low intensity skirmishes, intrigue and betrayals to confuse everybody. Fog of war without the fireworks.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
4. You speak the truth, GM:
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 11:50 AM
Mar 2013
If we elected a President in the US that had this guy's political views, DU would be declaring him an asshole.

But he cares about the poor!

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
11. This may have something to do with why the religious left is politically impotent...
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 01:23 PM
Mar 2013

... or we could just blame atheists.

Atheists, it is!

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
5. A solidly conservative electorate elects a conservative
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 12:19 PM
Mar 2013

And people are surprised at this? Be glad they have apparently not elected an out-and-out reactionary.

 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
9. I'm not surprised at all.
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 12:29 PM
Mar 2013

I'm also not saying he's awesome nor alerting on posts of people saying he's kind of a dick because of his homophobia.

I don't understand all the happy on DU regarding this guy.

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
8. An unwelcome truth...
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 12:27 PM
Mar 2013

If this new pope had aired his views on a post here on DU, he would've been tombstoned. Any progressive here celebrating him should reflect on the extent that brainwashing has given them cognitive dissonance.

struggle4progress

(118,282 posts)
16. The church hierarchy distanced itself from Liberation Theology many decades ago
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 08:31 PM
Mar 2013

I've probably posted here on LT more than anybody over the years, because I have found this interpretation very useful and informative. I don't recall anyone here ever claiming it is the "standard ... for ... Christian theology"

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