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Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 05:45 PM Mar 2013

This is about conservative Protestants.

I live in east Texas. Everybody is a conservative Protestant. Even the Methodists are conservative. In the city, they tend to be more liberal. Here they have never seen a Presbyterian or a Congregationalist or god forbid, a Unitarian. Horrors, you mean Unitarians are NOT CHEEE-RISTIANNNSSSS!!!!! (((Shudder)))

I was in a store and the owner, after I was thru with my transactions, said "Oh we should go eat at the Chinese buffet sometime". It was closing time. He was hinting that he wanted my husbo and I to invite him and his wife out. Which is fine. I don't have a problem with that.

The next time I was in the store the wife was waiting on us. We asked her about her kids and she said one of them was studying in Israel. My antennae went up and I thought "Uh oh. Fundy." I know fundies prop up Israel for the apocalypse even though they know the Jews are going to hell.

Then she said the kid was studying "Godly leadership" and I thought, I DO NOT want to make friends with these people. I know exactly what they will do. They will invite us to our church and ask us if we know Jesus.

Been there, done that, got the severe depression from preachers ranting about how filthy and sinful we are and ran off screaming over a decade ago. And stopped taking Christian preachers seriously AT ALL.

And they will have not the slightest interest in my religious/spiritual views, or my husband's.

Hint: I met hubby at a large metropolitan Unitarian church.

People here are depressingly conservative and predictable. They worry about what god wants and what jesus thinks bla de bla de blah.
They inject god and jesus into conversations with nothing to do with religion or Christianity.

We quit going to the book club b/c I was told I would be disruptive. We have both had the urge to get up and LEAVE when they start talking about Christianity. But that's another discussion.



I've already been told I'm going to hell and Buddhism is like Voodoo. These people are ignorant and proud of it.


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This is about conservative Protestants. (Original Post) Manifestor_of_Light Mar 2013 OP
What are the Episcopalians like? Are they conservative? hrmjustin Mar 2013 #1
I don't know if there are any in the county seats. Manifestor_of_Light Mar 2013 #2
LOL I like that church at the end of your post. hrmjustin Mar 2013 #3
Speaking from personal experience, probably the best LuvNewcastle Mar 2013 #4
There is no answer close by . The big city is 15o miles away. Manifestor_of_Light Mar 2013 #6
I forget sometimes how big Texas is. LuvNewcastle Mar 2013 #8
I'm a long way from anywhere. Manifestor_of_Light Mar 2013 #9
Well, I hope things get better for you. LuvNewcastle Mar 2013 #11
Thanks! I pet my indoor/outdoor kitty and work on plants! Manifestor_of_Light Mar 2013 #12
Great post. Thank you. I am from this background as well. nt morningglory Mar 2013 #5
i grew up rural too.. Phillip McCleod Mar 2013 #7
Yep. Tell me about it. Manifestor_of_Light Mar 2013 #10
Why don't you sell your house and move to the big city? kwassa Mar 2013 #13
It costs more than my income to live there. Manifestor_of_Light Mar 2013 #14
 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
2. I don't know if there are any in the county seats.
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 05:54 PM
Mar 2013

The county seat of my county has 8K people. The county seat to the north has 18K people. My town has 1400 people.

I do not set foot in any church around here, no matter what flavor.

I really don't want to associate with anyone who can't keep their nose out of my religion. Which means just about everybody.

I have been tempted to tell them "I go to Our Lady of None of Your Goddamn Business."

LuvNewcastle

(16,864 posts)
4. Speaking from personal experience, probably the best
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 07:23 PM
Mar 2013

place for you to meet like-minded people from your area is in the closest big city. Others in your situation do the same thing and you'll eventually meet them. You might not meet anyone from your particular town, but probably someone from a nearby town. They might give you some idea about how to deal with the overzealous locals. Remember that you don't want to alienate yourself too much from your neighbors, though. People in those areas depend on their neighbors to help them out on occasion. You'll need them too sometime, I guarantee it.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
6. There is no answer close by . The big city is 15o miles away.
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 12:08 AM
Mar 2013

This is Texas.

Texas is big.

we're 150 miles from Dallas or Houston so that's an overnite trip.
I already know cool people in Houston.

We have no choices here in religion or shopping(Dollar General and wallyworld), or entertainment or attitudes.

I inherited this house (family home) on 2 acres & we're retired.

I grew up in Houston and until we moved here 4 years ago, I had lived in Houston and San Antonio. I am definitely a city person, so I know exactly what you are talking about. I know the freeways in Houston and San Antonio. There really isn't any answer.

The people here really suffer from the general stupidity. For example, I can't find a competent CPA. I can't find a competent handyman or lawnmower mechanic or car mechanic. I was tempted to take a class at the community college branch in Small Engine Repair. I'm already taking welding and Spanish. That's three nights a week there.

I hired THREE different plumbers who dug a trench and looked busy, but did NOT do what I told them to do. One of them wanted to rip out my ten foot tall,
40-year old camellia bush that my grandmother planted. You mess with my plants and that's the quickest way to get on my shit list.

I told them I needed a dedicated line for my washing machine to drain into because it would spin and blow out of a toilet on the other side of the house. They would absolutely NOT listen to me and couldn't understand why I got mad at them. I should have reported them to the state board. The fourth guy I hired finally crawled under the house and installed a dedicated line for the washing machine.


The local senior citizens center, which my dad founded as a 501(c)3 non-profit corporation, has an ancient CPA on the board. A woman told me they have not filed a tax return since 1996. My dad died in 2000. I knew the place would go to hell after he died, because nobody in town was smart enough to run it properly. They got mad at him and cussed him out and told him he was stupid, because he ran it properly (no political rallies) and explained why. He was a retired attorney.

Last year I took my taxes to a CPA in a slightly larger town and wrote instructions for it on the front of the folder holding my records. Like "My husband's name Is Mr. John Smith. My name is Ms. Maidenname".

So they prepared the tax return with MY last name, which is my maiden name, as HIS last name. He was Mr. John MaidenName.

I couldn't sign that.

The basic incompetence of people here just amazes me. I have learned to expect it. If I tell somebody to show up and pull weeds on Monday, they say "Sure". They don't know what day it is. They don't show up at all or show up on Wednesday. This is after giving me a sob story about how poor they are and on food stamps, etc., etc.........
And I'll pay them above minimum wage and give them water if they're working in the heat.

There's a guy who cuts trees and never shows up when he says he will. I think he's an alcoholic.

We have tried to be self-sufficient as possible. For example, we have a generator. We bought that after going thru Hurricane Ike in 2008.

The other part of this is that I CANNOT get my friends to visit me from Houston or Dallas. I thought that in Texas 150 miles would not be a long drive but it is. Everybody is busy working.

One guy came up here and turned around and went back on a Saturday night, which was rude. I think his girlfriend got mad and made him go back to Houston. It didn't make any sense and he denied that anything was wrong. Maybe he thought it was my responsibility to entertain him when I had two other guests as well.


LuvNewcastle

(16,864 posts)
8. I forget sometimes how big Texas is.
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 04:07 AM
Mar 2013

I just looked at a map of east Texas and there is a whole lot of nothing in between Dallas and Houston. The only other thing I can think of would be to see if there are any gay bars around there anywhere. I don't know how y'all feel about going to gay bars, but in some areas, they're the places where the offbeat people congregate, gay or straight. You and your hubby will still be welcome, I'm sure. I saw that there's one in Longview; I don't know how far that is from where y'all are. Unfortunately, you're best bet for meeting people is probably in a watering hole of some type. Some of the people will be drunks, but at least they won't be trying to save you all the time.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
9. I'm a long way from anywhere.
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 04:51 AM
Mar 2013

I don't drink. I don't want to be around people who get sloppy drunk. I don't smoke either, it makes me quite ill. Nor wacky tobacky (Boy do I sound like a blast!!).

I know one gay man in Crockett who runs a B&B.

I've been to Tyler and Lufkin, and have not been real impressed by them or the people there. Had some conflicts with people in both towns. They have Target stores but that's about it.

We're talking about 70-80 miles one way. Not worth it. Longview is further than that. Shreveport is really far away. I have some boring Church of Christ cousins on my mother's side that own the town of Vivian. Yawn. Kinda like a fiefdom, but that's Louisiana for ya.

I was in Houston a few weekends ago and had to do some serious shopping. Hit the bargain bin of Neiman-Marcus called Last Call, and an Asian art/antiques/misc. store that is going out of business.

Walked around The Galleria on Sunday afternoon; it was jammed. The food court was jammed but the luxury retailers were deserted and the salespeople were bored. Neiman-Marcus itself was pretty busy
but I didn't buy anything there. Their shoe selection was just terrible.
I have really narrow feet and they don't carry anything in my size anymore.

I go in Neiman-Marcus and it is the complete opposite of wallyworld in retail: Quality merchandise, helpful, happy salespeople, an atmosphere of beautiful things and appreciation for beauty and quality. Just walking through there reminds me of everything Wallyworld is NOT. The vibe is so much nicer than wallyworld, it made me happy just walking through it to the mall.

www.lastcall.com
www.windwatergallery.com

Didn't have time to get to Costco for my chocolate covered almonds!!

That was my digression on the retail philosophy and atmosphere of diametrically opposed stores. One who has taken over rural and poor America in the race to the bottom, and one who is the last survivor of Texas department stores that were once family-owned.


Waiting for attacks from totally organic free-range grown sprout eaters who think it's a cardinal sin to set foot in either one of those stores.

LuvNewcastle

(16,864 posts)
11. Well, I hope things get better for you.
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 04:13 PM
Mar 2013

I know what it's like to be isolated in some shithole in the middle of nowhere. You have a husband and a computer, though, so at least you're not totally alone. Best of luck to you!

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
12. Thanks! I pet my indoor/outdoor kitty and work on plants!
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 05:28 PM
Mar 2013


And I'm taking welding and Spanish. I'm mastering silver soldering finally!!
 

Phillip McCleod

(1,837 posts)
7. i grew up rural too..
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 03:17 AM
Mar 2013

i've heard some of *the* most idiotic ideas come out of r.w. evangelical's mouth's.

so ignorant that it's insulting. the ignorant things they say are quite literally an insult and an affront. it's like they spat in your face.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
10. Yep. Tell me about it.
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 05:06 AM
Mar 2013

They make flat definitive statements about things they know not of.
Especially the males. They think they are authority figures and are complete idiots.
They just repeat the crap they heard on hate radio from Flaming Nazi Gasbag or whoever.

Some doozies I have heard:

"There are no atheists in foxholes." My reply: You ever heard of Pat Tillman? Look him up. "Naah, never heard of him."

"There are no atheists in the ICU unit at ____Hospital."
Hubby's reply: "Do you go up there every day and take a survey in the ICU? No? Then you don't know what you're talking about."

Adult female at book club: "I told my niece not to text OMG because God gets angry when you do that." I didn't say anything but just was utterly disgusted at hearing one of the most idiotic statements I've ever heard.
We should have gotten up and left. Right then. And taken our casserole dish with us.

"None of those illegal mezzcans wanna learn English."
Hubby's answer:
"Amazing! You personally surveyed TWELVE MILLION ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS in Spanish, no less, and EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM refuses to learn English!!"
At home we refer to this statistical genius as "Freddie Gauss, Junior".

Math people will know about Carl Friedrich Gauss, scientist and mathematician.

Stepson, naïve listener to right wing hate speech: "There's probably about as much proof that Buddha lived as that Jesus lived."

I said, "Uh, no, actually they have actual relics in temples. We have a lot more evidence that Buddha lived than that Jesus lived."

My response: sent him Wikipedia links to 5 or 6 Buddhist sites with actual relics of Shakyamuni Buddha--hair, teeth or bone fragments.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
13. Why don't you sell your house and move to the big city?
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 10:33 PM
Mar 2013

Having grown up in a rural place, I know you can't change the place, you can only go someplace better, and more suited to your beliefs and interests.

I left. So did many others.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
14. It costs more than my income to live there.
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 10:52 PM
Mar 2013

This place has been in the family since the 1920s. I probably couldn't sell it for enough money to help me live in the city. In fact, I think nothing is selling in the country, although the city has picked up somewhat. I can't handle the life threatening traffic 'n' stress every day anymore.

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