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Cardinal keeps excommunication threat hanging over abortion TDs. (Original Post) Warren Stupidity May 2013 OP
An idle threat. rug May 2013 #1
Split that hair. Warren Stupidity May 2013 #6
Prceision is the best antidote for demagoguery. rug May 2013 #7
You made me laugh out loud. Warren Stupidity May 2013 #8
Hah! rug May 2013 #9
It would be a mistake if the Bishops of Ireland did that. hrmjustin May 2013 #2
And as we all know skepticscott May 2013 #3
No of couse not. hrmjustin May 2013 #4
At least the stay out of politics edhopper May 2013 #5
Catholic Bishops, the henchmen of the great whore Dawson Leery May 2013 #10
The great whore? rug May 2013 #11
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2013 #13
Welcome to DU. A zygote is the cell formed by the union of two gametes, especially a fertilized ovum TeamPooka May 2013 #14
Yep! The RCC gets all bent out of shape over zygotes and gay-marriage... backscatter712 May 2013 #15
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2013 #16
none of the science really matters to me as I belive in a woman's right to choose what TeamPooka May 2013 #17
"none of the science really matters to me as I belive . . . ." rug May 2013 #18
Hi George! trotsky May 2013 #19
That's what I thought, too No Vested Interest May 2013 #20
Wow..messages CAN be removed skepticscott May 2013 #22
Yes it is gone. He was asked to remove it as a condition to coming back. hrmjustin May 2013 #23
And those Watchtowers. okasha May 2013 #24
We will likely never know for certain whether Halley's Comet was excommunicated. However, dimbear May 2013 #12
The cardinal is clearly abusing his authority meow2u3 May 2013 #21
 

rug

(82,333 posts)
1. An idle threat.
Sun May 5, 2013, 10:54 AM
May 2013

He's referring to excommunication latae sententae which dosn't apply. And he has neither the grounds nor the balls to try for excommunication ferendae sententiae.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
10. Catholic Bishops, the henchmen of the great whore
Sun May 5, 2013, 03:27 PM
May 2013

have no problem with slavery (the Magdaline laundries), yet they are hellbent of protecting zygotes at all costs.

Response to Dawson Leery (Reply #10)

TeamPooka

(24,225 posts)
14. Welcome to DU. A zygote is the cell formed by the union of two gametes, especially a fertilized ovum
Tue May 7, 2013, 07:39 PM
May 2013

the thread is about the church being against abortion so that would be why the poster mentioned zygote protection in the context he used.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
15. Yep! The RCC gets all bent out of shape over zygotes and gay-marriage...
Tue May 7, 2013, 07:43 PM
May 2013

but they've been fine with Magdaline Laundries, and went to exceptional amounts of trouble (all the way to the top - why do you think Maladict resigned?) to cover up widespread child molestation by their priests.

And they claim to be so moral...

Response to TeamPooka (Reply #14)

TeamPooka

(24,225 posts)
17. none of the science really matters to me as I belive in a woman's right to choose what
Tue May 7, 2013, 09:34 PM
May 2013

she does with her body regardless of what her religion or government dictates.
The real question I keep coming back to and you keep straw manning away from almost in an attempt to hijack the thread is what about the excommunication policy of the church over abortion?
You for it or against it?
I'm against it.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
18. "none of the science really matters to me as I belive . . . ."
Tue May 7, 2013, 10:34 PM
May 2013

If that's your premise, it really doesn't matter what follows.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
22. Wow..messages CAN be removed
Wed May 8, 2013, 06:55 PM
May 2013

Funny that "atheist arseholes" is still up...maybe the hosts don't mind it as much as we think.

dimbear

(6,271 posts)
12. We will likely never know for certain whether Halley's Comet was excommunicated. However,
Sun May 5, 2013, 09:15 PM
May 2013

it is well documented historical fact that locusts, grasshoppers, caterpillars, ants, termites, turtledoves, worms, and leeches have been.

Hitler: still cool.


meow2u3

(24,761 posts)
21. The cardinal is clearly abusing his authority
Wed May 8, 2013, 01:21 PM
May 2013

AFAIK, excommunication is appropriate when one directly participates in an abortion. Last I checked, merely voting to legalize abortion in extraordinary cases is not sufficient grounds for excommunication, and by no means directly participating in one. The cardinal is way out of line. He has no right to abuse his authority by threatening excommunication just to keep Catholic lawmakers in line.

He sounds like some of the cardinals on this side of the pond, using doctrine as a weapon instead of a teaching tool.

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