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Tue Feb 14, 2012, 12:17 PM Feb 2012

In birth control debate, a sacred question

By Sally Blount, Published: February 13

It’s a confusing time to be a religious leader.

The Obama administration’s controversial decision mandating that all employers provide insurance coverage for birth-control services flew in the face of the recent Supreme Court decision exempting religious groups from certain employment laws.

These contradictory decisions raise questions about how our country regulates religious leaders versus corporate and government leaders. At the heart of this debate is the issue of how we as a civil society give voice, meaning and influence to the discussion of the sacred. And as recent events show, it’s rarely a straightforward process.

Negotiations jujitsu

The late-in-the-week reframing of the birth-control decision by the Obama administration, pushing coverage from the religiously affiliated employer to the health insurer, was clever. It offers a nice example of a classic negotiations move, where one party seeks to deftly recast the narrative by shifting accountability from the other party at the table to one who is not. This move often serves to reduce the tension between the conflicting parties as they move closer to a common ground.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/on-leadership/in-birth-control-debate-a-sacred-question-for-religious-leaders/2012/02/13/gIQAp1bABR_story.html

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In birth control debate, a sacred question (Original Post) rug Feb 2012 OP
"Sacred" my ass. PassingFair Feb 2012 #1
Good synopsis and analysis of this situation. cbayer Feb 2012 #2
How come you got 17 hearts and I got 3? Thats my opinion Feb 2012 #4
I've been a DU lightning rod for far longer than you. Happy Valentines Day, Dad! cbayer Feb 2012 #5
Nobody anywhere in this controversy is forced to use any birth control pill or device. Thats my opinion Feb 2012 #3

PassingFair

(22,434 posts)
1. "Sacred" my ass.
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 01:39 PM
Feb 2012



Bunch of guys in black thinking THEY should determine what goes into a woman's body.

One of the catholic hospitals near me employs nearly 20,000 people in my state.

Women are probably the majority of those.

If the church doesn't want to hand out birth control at the altar, they don't have to.

But women who work for the "church" in broader circumstances, shouldn't be denied
the coverage by their "employer" just because the ROOT employer happens to be, for
tax purposes, a CHURCH.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
2. Good synopsis and analysis of this situation.
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 01:46 PM
Feb 2012

It has been really interesting to watch it develop, and, FWIW, I think Obama played it brilliantly and will not be hurt by this.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
5. I've been a DU lightning rod for far longer than you. Happy Valentines Day, Dad!
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 02:41 PM
Feb 2012

Hope you and your love have a wonderful day.

Thats my opinion

(2,001 posts)
3. Nobody anywhere in this controversy is forced to use any birth control pill or device.
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 01:57 PM
Feb 2012

There is no denial of anyone's freedom. If private firms--including religious ones--want to use government money they should not discriminate on the basis of doctrine. If the regulations stipulated that the nuns are forced to take birth control pills, that would be another matter.

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