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cbayer

(146,218 posts)
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 05:02 PM Sep 2013

Kansas school board votes to allow student-led prayer over school intercom

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/09/26/kansas-school-board-votes-to-allow-student-led-prayer-over-school-intercom/

By David Edwards
Thursday, September 26, 2013 14:30 EDT

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A school board in Kansas voted this week to allow student-led prayer at all activities, and even went as far as offering the schools’ public address systems for religious use.

According to the Leader and Times, school prayer had not been on the agenda for Monday’s meeting of USD No. 480 board in Liberal, but board member Nick Hatcher brought it up at the last minute.

Liberal High School had banned prayer before football games several years ago over concerns that allowing to students to pray over the intercom system could be construed as the school sponsoring a particular religion, which was banned by the Supreme Court in 1962.

In its 2000 Santa Fe Independent School Dist. v. Doe decision, the Supreme Court specifically ruled that allowing students to use the public address system to pray at football games violated the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment.

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Kansas school board votes to allow student-led prayer over school intercom (Original Post) cbayer Sep 2013 OP
I guess they have money to burn Mr.Bill Sep 2013 #1
What a stupid waste of their money. This is going to be a guaranteed loss. cbayer Sep 2013 #2
Alternate headline: Bay Boy Sep 2013 #3
+1000 (nt) LostOne4Ever Sep 2013 #15
Doesn't this intimidate a student who is not Christian? redstatebluegirl Sep 2013 #4
It's using a taxpayer funded facility Mr.Bill Sep 2013 #5
Of course it does and I think it's being done with that as it's intent. cbayer Sep 2013 #7
I guess prayers to satan will be readily accepted. Great news! RKP5637 Sep 2013 #19
i take it the high school doesn't have a civics class. madrchsod Sep 2013 #6
Apparently not. This is just crazy. cbayer Sep 2013 #8
Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong!!! Oh, and nice ironic school name. Dark n Stormy Knight Sep 2013 #9
Liberal! I know, I caught that too. cbayer Sep 2013 #11
And in Kansas, an alternative world of strangness. I escaped, so should others IMO. n/t RKP5637 Sep 2013 #20
Maybe this is an opportunity mindwalker_i Sep 2013 #10
Yep. They were given a heads up about the possible unintended consequences, cbayer Sep 2013 #12
Yeah, and if they were denied mindwalker_i Sep 2013 #13
Good luck finding a bunch of non-Xians there. Mariana Sep 2013 #14
That, in fact, has been what they have said. cbayer Sep 2013 #18
The same sort of thing happens in schools skepticscott Sep 2013 #22
They won't give a crap about the FSM. trotsky Sep 2013 #17
I'm sure those good Christian kids skepticscott Sep 2013 #21
This is just plain wrong. hrmjustin Sep 2013 #16

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
4. Doesn't this intimidate a student who is not Christian?
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 05:09 PM
Sep 2013

Why can't we recognize the separation of Church and State in this country. Our founding fathers did not intend to have a state religion, in fact they ran away from that concept.

This is what hurts the true Christians in America, this kind of extreme, shove it down your throat Christianity.

I don't trust this Supreme Court to fix this they don't have the ability to see how wrong this is.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
7. Of course it does and I think it's being done with that as it's intent.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 05:18 PM
Sep 2013

They are spitting in the face of the Supreme Court as well, which seems like a really bad idea.

SCOTUS has already ruled on this and ruled very clearly.

I would hope that the school board would drop it at the first legal challenge but they appear to be quite determined to challenge the existing law.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
19. I guess prayers to satan will be readily accepted. Great news!
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 08:00 AM
Sep 2013

And the Church of Satan will be readily accepted by this school.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
9. Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong!!! Oh, and nice ironic school name.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 05:29 PM
Sep 2013

This is such bullshit. Schools do not prevent anyone from praying...silently.

mindwalker_i

(4,407 posts)
10. Maybe this is an opportunity
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 05:30 PM
Sep 2013

Get a bunch of dudes together who will demand to say a prayer to the Flying Spaghetti Monster, and have them wear pasta strainers all day

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
12. Yep. They were given a heads up about the possible unintended consequences,
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 05:47 PM
Sep 2013

and just blew them off.

I would love to see someone demand that they have an FSM prayer.

mindwalker_i

(4,407 posts)
13. Yeah, and if they were denied
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 05:51 PM
Sep 2013

They could raise a HUGE stink about that! Personally, I'd love it if a bunch of non-Xtians wore pasta strainers to school, and prayed before each class.

Mariana

(14,861 posts)
14. Good luck finding a bunch of non-Xians there.
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 09:18 PM
Sep 2013

The school board is doing this because they know the vast majority of the locals approve.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
22. The same sort of thing happens in schools
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 09:14 AM
Sep 2013

all over the Bible Belt every day. But we're not supposed to point those things out on this board, because certain posters have tried to declare the criticism of extremists as off-limits. We're only supposed to talk about the warm, fuzziness of "liberal" and "progressive" Xstians and the wonderfulness of their "faith communities" in forming "coalitions" to solve all of the world's problems.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
21. I'm sure those good Christian kids
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 09:10 AM
Sep 2013

would be more than welcoming and accepting toward the Muslim students who offered that prayer up. Just like their good Christian parents taught them to be.


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