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(Jewish Group) 5 Jewish Languages You Didn't Know Existed (Original Post) Behind the Aegis Mar 2023 OP
Rambam wrote a lot in judeo-arabic Mosby Mar 2023 #1
The word 'yiddish' has always bothered me The Blue Flower Mar 2023 #2
Well, Yiddish literally means "Jewish". Behind the Aegis Mar 2023 #3
An interesting thing is happening to the tern "Yid" in some Jewish communities, especially in the US Beastly Boy Mar 2023 #6
Yes, that is happening in English speaking places now. Behind the Aegis Mar 2023 #7
My favorite trick question on linguistics: What are the six Romance languages? Beastly Boy Mar 2023 #4
There are WAY more than six. Behind the Aegis Mar 2023 #5
Another interesting piece of trivia: the newest Romance language is Moldovan. Beastly Boy Mar 2023 #8
Most of the stuff sabbat hunter Mar 2023 #9

Mosby

(16,334 posts)
1. Rambam wrote a lot in judeo-arabic
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 03:15 PM
Mar 2023

Some of them were basically transliteration, using hebrew letters to sound out Arabic words. Because the Jews were multi lingual, they could read the texts, but the local Arabs couldn't, because they didn't know hebrew. That allowed Rambam and others to write more freely without worrying about the authorities.

The Blue Flower

(5,444 posts)
2. The word 'yiddish' has always bothered me
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 03:55 PM
Mar 2023

It's the answer to the question: what language do the yids speak? Borders on offensive IMO.

Behind the Aegis

(53,968 posts)
3. Well, Yiddish literally means "Jewish".
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 04:13 PM
Mar 2023

"Yid" is a slur. It is of the group of slurs that are called diminutives. Two examples off the top of my head are "nip", a slur against Japanese persons derived for one of the names of Japan in Japanese, "Nippon" and "gyp" a shortening of, now itself an offensive term, Gypsy. So, yeah, never call a Jew a "Yid" as it is a slur. Of course, I had it out years ago with a poster here who claimed because they used that term growing up in England, it wasn't "really" a slur.

I can't tell you how to feel, but, personally, I am not bothered by it. There were a few people here who felt "Jew" was a slur, too.

Beastly Boy

(9,391 posts)
6. An interesting thing is happening to the tern "Yid" in some Jewish communities, especially in the US
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 04:39 PM
Mar 2023

The word is being re-appropriated as having a positive connotation. I often hear one Jew talking to another and using the word "Yid" as a term of endearment. As in, for instance, "Is he a Yid?", meaning "Is he one of us?"

Behind the Aegis

(53,968 posts)
7. Yes, that is happening in English speaking places now.
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 04:46 PM
Mar 2023

It is a bit jarring at first, especially if you don't know the person is a member of the tribe. However, it is actually a common greeting in Yiddish. LOL! That, I found really funny and didn't know until I read, "Yiddish: A Nation of Words" by Miriam Weinstein. I highly recommend it if you are into languages...if not, well,. you might get bored real quick. Another one is "Born to Kvetch: Yiddish Language and Culture in All of Its Moods" by Michael Wex, but, IMO, it isn't as good as the first book, but it isn't a bad read and is more colloquial than the first book.

Beastly Boy

(9,391 posts)
4. My favorite trick question on linguistics: What are the six Romance languages?
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 04:23 PM
Mar 2023

Most people can easily name five: Romanian, Italian, French, Spanish and Portuguese. Very few are aware of Ladino also being a Romance language.

Behind the Aegis

(53,968 posts)
5. There are WAY more than six.
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 04:33 PM
Mar 2023

The top 5 and their originator, Latin, are usually listed, though Latin isn't always classified as such. I learned, 'I Love Fried Spanish Rice." for "Italian, Latin, French, Spanish, and Romanian, all of which I can speak to varying degrees, except Latin! Catalan is the one I often think of, outside of Ladino, because of my ties to the Spanish language.

ETA: A few of the Romance languages derived from the main 5, but a few others are direct descendants from Latin and were influenced by the surrounding dominant language.

Beastly Boy

(9,391 posts)
8. Another interesting piece of trivia: the newest Romance language is Moldovan.
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 05:03 PM
Mar 2023

It was promoted from a dialect to a language by government decree in 1991, when Moldova became an independent state.

BTW, Catalan totally escaped my attention. Thanks for the reminder.

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