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http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/150417-astrobiologists-discover-fossils-in-meteorite-fragments-confirming-extraterrestrial-lifeAstrobiologists discover fossils in meteorite fragments, confirming extraterrestrial life
By Sebastian Anthony on March 11, 2013
In December 2012, a fireball was seen over the skies of Polonnaruwa, Sri Lanka. Over the following few days, fragments of the fireball were collected and sent to Sri Lankas Medical Research Institute, where initial microscopic analysis revealed siliceous microalgae known as diatoms. As you can imagine, with this being the first ever evidence that life mightve arrived on Earth via a meteorite, the scientific community was skeptical of the results and so some fragments were sent to Cardiff University in Wales for further analysis. The researchers at Cardiff are now reporting that theyre sure that these fragments come from an extraterrestrial meteorite and that there are definitely fossilized biological structures within them. Panspermia, it seems, is a go.
There are a few competing theories for how life began on Earth. Panspermia, where life arrived on the back of a comet or asteroid, is one ....
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Witness the last paragraph:
Exactly. Interesting? Yes. Is it possible they're right? Yes.
Is it "confirmed"? No.
DRoseDARs
(6,810 posts)
Oh boy. Here we go again, again.
In January, I wrote about Chandra Wickramasinghe, who claimed he had found fossilized diatoms (microscopic plant life) in a meteorite. I showed pretty carefully why this claim is very wrong, but apparently it wasnt enough: A new paper from Wickramasinghes team has been published furthering the claims, and its getting picked up by mainstream media.
I read the paper, and really its more of the same as from the first paper. In some ways, its even shakier; they provide lots of technical data that gives their work a veneer of credibility, but when you look a bit deeper you find they didnt do a lot of critically necessary tests to establish the veracity of their claims. All the technical stuff obfuscates the fact that they missed the boat in some very basic ways.
In a nutshell, they dont establish the samples they examined were actually meteorites. They dont establish they were from the claimed meteor event over Sri Lanka in December 2012. And perhaps most telling, they dont eliminate the possibility of contamination; that is, diatoms got into the samples because those rocks were sitting on the Earth where diatoms are everywhere.
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UnrepentantLiberal
(11,700 posts)Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)exboyfil
(17,865 posts)the vast difference between this board and Free Republic. I suspect most people on this board would love for us to find evidence of extraterrestrial life, but we call out this not peer reviewed article as being speculation at best. Over at Free Republic if someone claimed to find human footprints along with dinosaur prints, most would run with it.
clydefrand
(4,325 posts)DECEPTION POINT?
These things can be rigged to 'prove' the meterite came from outter space.
Progressive dog
(6,931 posts)lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)These findings arent a slam dunk, though. According to our in-house biologist John Hewitt, theres a strong possibility that the fossils arent actually biological in nature they simply look biological. This is kind of like finding a Q from Scrabble floating in space; it may be worth 10 points, but finding a few Es first would be a bit more convincing, Hewitt says. Theres also the fact that the research was published in the Journal of Cosmology, a peer-reviewed journal that has come under critical scrutiny numerous times since it was established in 2009. The journal faced a lot of controversy when it published a paper by NASA engineer Richard Hoover claiming to have found fossils similar to cyanobacteria in meteorites.
We've been here before. So far those who have bet against the various meteorites being proof of extraterrestrial life have a 100% win rate.
Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)It just so happens that one of the authors of the study in the article has published a bunch of other everything-comes-from-space articles there. Did I mention he also runs said journal?
It's not peer review if he's screening his own work.
Warpy
(111,456 posts)I'm afraid you really do need to consider the original source and the original source was bunk.
While I'm sure the discovery of bacterial life will be made off planet eventually, this wasn't it.
eppur_se_muova
(36,317 posts)They have a hypothesis and interpret the evidence as needed to fit the hypothesis.
Once again the Universe gives the appearance of being biologically constructed, and on this occasion on a truly vast scale. Once again those who consider such thoughts to be too outlandish to be taken seriously will continue to do so. While we ourselves shall continue to take the view that those who believe they can match the complexities of the Universe by simple experiments in their laboratories will continue to be disappointed.
Wickramasinghe attempts to present scientific evidence to support the notion of cosmic ancestry and "the possibility of high intelligence in the Universe and of many increasing levels of intelligence converging toward a God as an ideal limit." [27]
During the 1981 scientific creationist trial in Arkansas, Wickramasinghe was the only scientist testifying for the defense of creationism and against evolution.[26][28] In addition, he wrote that the Archaeopteryx fossil finding is a forgery, a charge that the expert scientific community considers an "absurd" and "ignorant" statement.[29][30]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chandra_Wickramasinghe