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sofa king

(10,857 posts)
Wed May 8, 2013, 12:11 AM May 2013

Holy &^%! Los Alamos Reveals quantum network.

And even if you did not forget that you're living in the future, the network has been up and running for two and a half years!


http://phys.org/news/2013-05-los-alamos-reveals-quantum-network.html

(Phys.org) —In a recent paper available on arXiv, a team of researchers at New Mexico's Los Alamos National Laboratory has revealed they've been running a quantum network for 2 1/2 years. The network is hub-and-spoke based, the team reports, and allows for perfectly secure messaging except at the hub.

Quantum networks are the Holy Grail for security experts—because messages cannot be read without changing them, it is impossible for them to be intercepted without being detected. But that same technology that allows for such perfect security also prevents it from being implemented in network systems. In order for messages to be routed, the address must be read, thus altering the message. The researchers at Los Alamos report they've worked around this problem by implementing the network as a hub-and-spoke system.

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http://www.technologyreview.com/view/514581/government-lab-reveals-quantum-internet-operated-continuously-for-over-two-years/

The big advantage of this system is that it makes the technology required at each node extremely simple–essentially little more than a laser. In fact, Los Alamos has already designed and built plug-and-play type modules that are about the size of a box of matches. “Our next-generation [module] will be an order of magnitude smaller in each linear dimension,” they say.

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http://arxiv.org/abs/1305.0305

Network-centric quantum communications (NQC) - a new, scalable instantiation of quantum cryptography providing key management with forward security for lightweight encryption, authentication and digital signatures in optical networks - is briefly described. Results from a multi-node experimental test-bed utilizing integrated photonics quantum communications components, known as QKarDs, include: quantum identification; verifiable quantum secret sharing; multi-party authenticated key establishment, including group keying; and single-fiber quantum-secured communications that can be applied as a security retrofit/upgrade to existing optical fiber installations. A demonstration that NQC meets the challenging simultaneous latency and security requirements of electric grid control communications, which cannot be met without compromises using conventional cryptography, is described.

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Wow.... I don't claim to know much about this, but it looks really, really important as a working application.

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Warpy

(111,380 posts)
1. Well, that explains why they flip out
Wed May 8, 2013, 12:27 AM
May 2013

when hard drives or laptops get taken off site or are mislaid for a few days.

And they've had this perfected for two years! Wow!

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
2. I have a young female cousin who is a nuclear physicist at Los Alamos.
Wed May 8, 2013, 12:50 AM
May 2013

I wonder if she works on this sort of thing.......probably............but I assume it's classified.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
3. “Our next-generation will be an order of magnitude smaller in each linear dimension,” they say.
Wed May 8, 2013, 02:25 AM
May 2013

Who talks like this???????

delrem

(9,688 posts)
6. Does anyone think this makes a difference in a world
Wed May 8, 2013, 02:46 AM
May 2013

where FBI/CIA access to everything digital is already complete, the databases going back several years?

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
7. I wonder if quantum communications could be used for interstellar communication
Wed May 8, 2013, 03:59 AM
May 2013

We are just in the infancy of this technology.
I'm reading too much sci/fi I guess LOL





Radio waves are so 19th century SETI. but go ahead search for advanced civilizations using a 19th century technology.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
8. Wouldn't that be interesting?
Wed May 8, 2013, 08:39 AM
May 2013

I think the no-communication theorem would prevent two civilizations from instantaneously trading information, but quantum communication might be far more reliable than wavelength transmissions, which apparently are quickly absorbed and drowned out by the interstellar medium.

So if you found some critters out there, and were willing to wait a couple hundred years for half of your entangled particles to reach them by robotic spacecraft, then you might be able to reliably exchange information with them--which might not be the case with radio signals.

It seems unlikely right now that human consciousness can be identified, copied, transmitted, and reconstituted elsewhere, but that would probably be one of the safest and most reliable ways to "travel" across interstellar distances. It would also require a willing and entirely alien partner on the other end to pull it off.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
10. Yeah, but this is where I lose the concept.
Thu May 9, 2013, 12:22 AM
May 2013

I think that the current theory is that when the state of the two entangled particles changes, the event can be witnessed simultaneously by observers no matter how far apart the two particles. But entanglement by itself cannot transmit any information (in this case "information" is the details of the particle's spin and other physical attributes).

And that's where I get completely lost, because the first thing I think is, "Okay, what if I change the state of some of the particles in a sequence of entangled particles, and by prearrangement treat the measured particles as a "dot" and the un-measured particles as a "dash." Now I have a binary transmitter sort of like a telegraph, thinks I, the guy who doesn't know jack shit about this sort of thing.

The details of the prearrangement would have to travel by slow-boat to the aliens, along with half of the entangled particles. But once it's there and set up, and the ticker starts rolling, aren't my messages traveling much faster than the speed of light?

Hell if I know. I'd love to devote twenty years to figuring it out, but I have long since proven to myself that such things are beyond my reach.


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