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Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
Mon Mar 31, 2014, 06:56 PM Mar 2014

Neil deGrasse Tyson Disproves Creationism on Cosmos - (article/VIDEO link)


Neil deGrasse Tyson Disproves Creationism on Cosmos

Astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson continues to challenge long-held religious beliefs on his weekly prime time science show on Fox, Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey. At the beginning of Sunday’s episode, Tyson offered up a compellingly straight-forward reason why the Earth cannot possibly be 6,500 years old, as creationists believe it to be.

As Tyson explained to his viewers, we measure Earth’s distance from other planets and galaxies in the universe by the speed of light. On average, Neptune is four light-hours away from Earth, meaning the Neptune we see when we look through a telescope is as it appears four hours ago

or another example, Tyson looked at the Crag Nebula, a supernova remnant that just happens to be 6,500 light-years away from Earth. This means that when we view the Crab Nebula through the telescope, we are seeing it 6,500 years in the past. Because there are objects beyond that point, we can see with our own telescope-enabled eyes that the universe is older than 6,500 years.

“If the universe were only 6,500 years old, how could we see the light from anything more distant than the Crab Nebula?” Tyson asks. “We couldn’t. There wouldn’t have been enough time for the light to get to Earth from anywhere farther away than 6,500 light-years in any direction. That’s just enough time for light to travel through a tiny portion of our Milky Way galaxy.”

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Full post with VIDEO here: http://www.mediaite.com/tv/neil-degrasse-tyson-disproves-creationism-on-cosmos/


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Neil deGrasse Tyson Disproves Creationism on Cosmos - (article/VIDEO link) (Original Post) Tx4obama Mar 2014 OP
If I understand creationists .... earthside Mar 2014 #1
I believe God created the creationists on April 1, 1990. flamin lib Mar 2014 #2
Congratulations, you just started your own religion. postulater Mar 2014 #3
If He created them in His image, as the Bible says..... lastlib Mar 2014 #4
And not "the Rest of the Story" WovenGems Apr 2014 #8
The problem is that creationism cannot be disproven. Skinner Apr 2014 #5
Kansas Senators To Introduce Bill To Ban Cosmos:) Baconeater Apr 2014 #6
Lightspeed is a liberal hoax, perpetrated by the light-lobby. DetlefK Apr 2014 #7

earthside

(6,960 posts)
1. If I understand creationists ....
Mon Mar 31, 2014, 07:13 PM
Mar 2014

... since no one was there to witness the speed of light at "the beginning', then god was making light go faster so that it only appears to us now that objects further than 6,500 light years away are that far away.

Uh?

Or they often say things like god created a mature universe so it only looks to us like it is 14 billion years old, when it was created only 6,500 years old. (Of course, that just makes god a big con artist, doesn't it?)

Of course, if all of the laws of physics are dependent upon the capriciousness of a vengeful, omnipotent, loving but world destroying (the flood) god, well, then we cannot depend upon anything being the same tomorrow as it is today, right?

flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
2. I believe God created the creationists on April 1, 1990.
Mon Mar 31, 2014, 07:46 PM
Mar 2014

Complete with a history predating and memories of their past or all of us.

Prove me wrong!

lastlib

(23,233 posts)
4. If He created them in His image, as the Bible says.....
Mon Mar 31, 2014, 11:46 PM
Mar 2014

...then that would make God a paste-eating, booger-picking, slobbering dumbfuck. So, no. The part I don't understand is how they've kept the stupid gene in the pool this long. According to Darwin, that line shouldn't have been as successful in the evolutionary chain, and thus would have died out--but it's still with us in spades. . .

WovenGems

(776 posts)
8. And not "the Rest of the Story"
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 10:15 AM
Apr 2014

Trailer parks may not be the best place to live but they are the best place to raise kids. Lots of kids. And the best part about trailers is there isn't room for a bookshelf so there isn't any reason to teach the kids to read.

Skinner

(63,645 posts)
5. The problem is that creationism cannot be disproven.
Tue Apr 1, 2014, 10:12 AM
Apr 2014

Creationism exists outside of evidence. No matter what evidence is provided, the creationist can always simply respond that God made it that way.

This is one example of how evolution is superior to creationism. Or why science is superior to non-evidence-based beliefs. Theories in science can be disproven. Ask a creationist what would disprove creationism, and they would be unable to provide an answer. Ask a biologist about evolution, and you'll get an answer. As J.B.S. Haldane famously stated when asked what would disprove evolution: "fossil rabbits in the Precambrian."

Baconeater

(15 posts)
6. Kansas Senators To Introduce Bill To Ban Cosmos:)
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 06:25 PM
Apr 2014

The Fox television show COSMOS: A Spacetime Odyssey has attracted its fair share of detractors since the docudrama first aired on March 9th. But soon, the controversy revolving around the show might reach climactic new heights, as several State senators in Kansas will propose a bill on Thursday that would force Fox affiliates in their state to black out the science show completely.

The bill, which many are expecting will pass, would force local Kansas television stations affiliated with Fox to pay steep fines for airing the program. Should any network continue to air all thirteen episodes of the show’s first season, the State would move to revoke their broadcasting privileges completely, driving those networks off the air.

Conservative lawmakers in Kansas are, however, offering Fox a back door through which they could skirt the new law: they won’t press this law into effect if Fox will agree to immediately develop a new show, hosted by young-Earth creationist Ken Ham, which pushes the theories of so-called “intelligent design.” This new show would need to be aired on Sunday evenings, before Cosmos, in order for the small-time Fox affiliates to avoid Kansas’ legislative wrath.

More:
http://nationalreport.net/kansas-black-cosmos-show-controversies/

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