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sandensea

(21,635 posts)
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 09:46 PM Sep 2017

Cheers to 40 Years! Voyagers 1 and 2 going strong

It's been 40 years to the day since the Voyager mission commenced with the launch of Voyager 1.

This groundbreaking and incredibly ambitious mission touched on practically every aspect of our solar system and planetary neighbors.

Voyager 1 left Earth on September 5, 1977 - preceded by Voyager 2 on August 20th - on a quest to study the outer solar system. Today NASA and the Smithsonian National Air and Space Museum are celebrating the 40th anniversary of this history-making mission.

Throughout the 1960s, NASA had focused on sending astronauts to the Moon. But by the 1970s, as the Apollo era ended, the agency's focus shifted toward robotic missions to the planets, as well as developing the Space Shuttle program for delivering payloads to Earth orbit.

In 1964, with Apollo 11's landing still a half decade away, Caltech graduate student and Jet Propulsion Laboratory intern Gary Flandro was working to develop feasible trajectories for a mission to the outer planets. He turned his attention to the relatively new idea of gravity assist, whereby a spacecraft passing close by a planet steals some of its orbital speed, accelerating without expending any rocket fuel.

Flandro's pencil-and-paper plots of the outer planets revealed that Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune would align in the late 1970s such that one spacecraft could visit all four in a single mission if it launched by 1977.

The craft would slingshot around each planet in succession, completing a "Grand Tour" in only 10 to 12 years. By comparison, sending a dedicated spacecraft to only Neptune would take 40 years without passing any other planets along the way.

At: http://www.skyandtelescope.com/astronomy-news/cheers-to-40-years-voyager-1-and-2-going-strong/



Voyager 1: going strong at 40 years.
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Cheers to 40 Years! Voyagers 1 and 2 going strong (Original Post) sandensea Sep 2017 OP
Without anything to recharge them, the batteries will eventually run down Warpy Sep 2017 #1
They're using radioisotope thermoelectric generators for power lordsummerisle Sep 2017 #3
No batteries. Radioisotope Thermoelectric Generators. longship Sep 2017 #4
The energy output of the RTG is in theory 72% of what it was in 1977, however power is not... NNadir Sep 2017 #12
Wow! An expert! Thanks! longship Sep 2017 #13
Absolutely amazing technology lordsummerisle Sep 2017 #2
We know what will happen to it central scrutinizer Sep 2017 #5
(But that's Voyager 6--it hasn't been launched yet.....) lastlib Sep 2017 #10
Now that's the sort of explorer that deserves a statue, or a city named after it. Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #6
I agree. Voyager Circle has a nice ring to it. sandensea Sep 2017 #7
I also agree! Rhiannon12866 Sep 2017 #8
He does? I didn't know that - thank you for the info. sandensea Sep 2017 #9
Kick. ♡ littlemissmartypants Sep 2017 #11

Warpy

(111,256 posts)
1. Without anything to recharge them, the batteries will eventually run down
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 09:52 PM
Sep 2017

and that will be a sad day at NASA.

A few eons from now, they might approach another star system and start transmitting again. I wonder who or what will be out there to hear it.

They were amazingly engineered.

longship

(40,416 posts)
4. No batteries. Radioisotope Thermoelectric Generators.
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 10:15 PM
Sep 2017

Powered by Plutonium 238.

Radioisotope thermoelectric generator will provide power up to another decade. That depends on how much power these spacecraft can save by shutting things off. They've already done quite a bit of that. Very few systems are still operating. Nevertheless, the deep sky network is still in daily contact. The last systems that will have power will undoubtedly be the radio transmitters and receivers.

No batteries necessary.

NNadir

(33,517 posts)
12. The energy output of the RTG is in theory 72% of what it was in 1977, however power is not...
Thu Sep 7, 2017, 07:49 PM
Sep 2017

...the only constraint on its lifetime.

The strength of the radio signal decreases with the square of the distance. This is the biggest limitation on how long we'll be able to hear from the spacecraft. Having the radio operate when no on board devices can operate doesn't make any sense.

The radioactive decay of Pu-238 doesn't really account for all that much of the lifetime of the device. The RTG will be putting out power for more than a century, reliably, but not enough to transmit across the increasing distances. (A tiny amount of power is generated by the Pu-238 decay products, probably mostly Th-230 and Ra-226, even less from U-234.)

Interestingly, the deeper into space the spacecraft go, the more efficient the energy conversion from heat to electricity becomes, since in many ways a thermoelectric device has similar thermodynamics to other types of (mechanical) heat engines, and depends on the temperature difference between the heat source and the heat sink. It is about as cold as one can get where the craft are now.

(I have a post on the topic of thermoelectric devices - maybe too long for this forum - in prep; I've recently been studying the materials chemistry of novel high ZT thermoelectric materials.) It does seem that it may at some point be possible, to the extent we can manufacture nanostructured materials with high reliability, to build devices that are far more efficient than mechanical devices. This was nowhere near the case in 1977. The thermodynamic efficiency of the RTG was on the order of 5 or 6%, whereas a typical Rankine cycle device operates at around 30%, or when in tandem with a Brayton device, above 50%.


lordsummerisle

(4,651 posts)
2. Absolutely amazing technology
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 10:05 PM
Sep 2017

and these probes were designed and built back when most of the computers around were large mainframes that had the processing power that was less than that of the first desktop computers in the 80's.

I also remember reading a technical article about receiving the signals from the Voyagers. They are so far away that the signals when they are received are only a few billionths of a watt and a ton of processing is needed to tease out the signal from all of the background noise.

sandensea

(21,635 posts)
7. I agree. Voyager Circle has a nice ring to it.
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 11:42 PM
Sep 2017

And why not? It's changed in so many other ways.



Columbus Circle in the 1980s.



And today.

Rhiannon12866

(205,320 posts)
8. I also agree!
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 04:48 AM
Sep 2017

Voyager is amazing and fascinating, thanks so much for posting this! BTW, I have President Carter's autobiography and he follows the exploits of Voyager, too!

sandensea

(21,635 posts)
9. He does? I didn't know that - thank you for the info.
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 03:03 PM
Sep 2017

Carter, as you know, was very supportive of the space program - and largely reversed the steep cuts to NASA and the JPL under Nixon and Ford.

I always thought it unfortunate that the launching of the space shuttle Columbia was delayed until April 1981.

Had they been able to launch it in 1980 as was planned, it would have, of course, taken place under his watch - and would have no doubt been a very nice memory for him in a year Carter himself described as "the most difficult of my life."

But in life and in politics, timing doesn't always cooperate.

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